On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 5:59 AM Sergey Prokhorenko
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> Sergey Prokhorenko sergeyprokhore...@yahoo.com.au
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> On Friday 29 November 2024 at 09:19:33 am GMT+3, Masahiko Sawada 
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> On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 8:13 PM Sergey Prokhorenko
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> <sergeyprokhore...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> > I mean to add not benchmark results to the patch, but functions so that 
> > everyone can compare themselves on their equipment. The comparison with 
> > UUIDv4 is not very interesting, as the choice is usually between UUIDv7 and 
> > an integer key. And I have described many use cases, and in your benchmark 
> > there is only one, the simplest.
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> I don't think we should add such benchmark functions at least to this
> patch. If there already is a well-established workload using UUIDv7
> and UUIDv4 etc, users can use pgbench with custom scripts, or it might
> make sense to add it to pgbench as a built-in workload. Which however
> should be a separate patch. Having said that, I think users should use
> benchmarks that fit their workloads, and it would not be easy to
> establish workloads that are reasonable for most systems.
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> Regards,
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> Masahiko Sawada
> Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com
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> Workloads can and must be added with parameters. Typically, companies use 
> test tables of 10,000 and 1,000,000 records, etc. Different companies have 
> mostly similar usage scenarios (for example, incremental loading). Each 
> company has to duplicate the work of others, creating the same benchmarks. 
> The worst thing is that this is entrusted to incompetent employees who are 
> not very good at understanding typical key usage scenarios. As a rule, these 
> are programmers, not system analysts. Accordingly, the solution in 99% of 
> cases will be in favor of integer keys, as they take up less space and are 
> generated faster. If we leave this problem until the next patch, it will take 
> us a year and a half. This is completely wrong.

There are still 4 months left until the feature freeze. We can discuss
this topic and might find solutions. I don't think it's a blocker of
this patch (UUIDv7 implementation patch).

Regards,

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Masahiko Sawada
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com


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