Richard, It is confusing. A piece of equipment that can generate a lethal agent, but is not sold with anything the agent is produced from, is considered a device, and thus does not need to be registered as a pesticide. An example is BurrowRx, which kind of looks like a lawn mower. It is not sold with gasoline. But when you add gas to it and turn it on, it generates carbon monoxide, which you can direct into rodent burrows to kill the rodents.
Not sure I get the logic, either, but that’s the way the regulations have read since the 1970s. --Dan Dan Wixted Extension Support Specialist Cornell Cooperative Extension Pesticide Safety Education Program 135 CALS Surge Facility 525 Tower Road Ithaca, NY 14853 psep.cce.cornell.edu<http://psep.cce.cornell.edu/> dj...@cornell.edu<mailto:dj...@cornell.edu> 607-255-7525 Cornell Cooperative Extension is an equal opportunity, affirmative action educator and employer From: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Pollack, Richard J Sent: Friday, April 5, 2024 10:48 AM To: pestlist@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PestList] Fumigation Recommendations According to the views delivered from my contacts at EPA, nearly any substance that is used to kill, repel, or otherwise mitigate a pest may be considered to be a pesticide. This is particularly the case if the chemical is prepared elsewhere but is then transported and applied at another location. So, carbon dioxide (in bottled or frozen form) is definitely considered to be a pesticide if used for mitigating a pest. If it is used to put fizz in your soda, it is not a pesticide. In contrast, carbon monoxide generated as a product of combustion, even if used to mitigate a pest, is not considered a pesticide, as it is generated on site. According to this logic, argon, if used for the purposes of fumigation, would be a pesticide. I anticipate that EPA would require that the bottle of argon be labeled with a pesticide label and carry an EPA registration number. Don’t ask me to support the logic of this distinction. I’m just a messenger who has had too many conversations on this matter with folks from EPA and from several state agencies. -Rich Richard J. Pollack, PhD Senior Environmental Public Health Officer Environmental Health and Safety (EH&S) | Harvard Campus Services 46 Blackstone Street., Cambridge, MA 02139 C: 617-447-0763 www.ehs.harvard.edu<http://www.ehs.harvard.edu/> [A blue and black logo Description automatically generated]<https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-pollack-6818997/> From: pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com> <pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of ulisses mello <ume...@gmail.com<mailto:ume...@gmail.com>> Date: Friday, April 5, 2024 at 10:41 AM To: pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com> <pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: [PestList] Fumigation Recommendations Hello Patricia. Argon is not a pesticide. You may see as analog to heat, cold, gama rays... They are not pesticide, but kill bugs using different aproaches. On Fri, Apr 5, 2024, 9:01 AM Patricia Hottel <phot...@rentokil-terminix.com<mailto:phot...@rentokil-terminix.com>> wrote: Curious, is there a labeled Argon product for this use as a pesticide in the U.S? On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 8:55 AM ulisses mello <ume...@gmail.com<mailto:ume...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello Lancey. We use argon gas for anoxic treatments. By far, the less invasive method. Feel free to contact me directly if you're interested. Ulisses Mello ume...@gmail.com<mailto:ume...@gmail.com> Em qua., 3 de abr. de 2024 às 14:24, 'lrestemyer' via MuseumPests <pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com>> escreveu: Hello, Does anyone have any fumigation recommendations? We have a large open-air taxidermy exhibit that has problems despite using preventative measures, so we unfortunately have to resort to fumigation on occasion. 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