Ok – sounds like they may have been just hitched a ride in the box. If you do not have to keep the box don’t. If you have to keep it for context or what- ever then freeze the box and clean it out the best that you can. Do not freeze the reverse glass painting.
Good luck. Gretchen From: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Niver, Chris Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 4:09 PM To: pestlist@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PestList] Moth ID Gretchen, thanks for that, I would describe the color as tarnished silver. The contents of the box was a reverse glass painting and it came from a residence that was described as somewhat dirty. On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 3:04 PM Anderson, Gretchen <anders...@carnegiemnh.org<mailto:anders...@carnegiemnh.org>> wrote: I would be more inclined to think it is a casemaking clothes moth – Webbing moths are lighter in color, more golden with a gold top-knot. These appear more silvery. What was in the box and where did it come from? Gretchen Anderson Gretchen Anderson Conservator Carnegie Museum of Natural History 5800 Baum Blvd. Pittsburgh, PA 15213 anders...@carnegiemnh.org<mailto:anders...@carnegiemnh.org> (412)665-2607 From: pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com> <pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Niver, Chris Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 4:01 PM To: pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [PestList] Moth ID Thanks for the reply Steph. It was the color of the wings that led me away from webbing clothes moth. I would describe these moths as grey/brown with an almost metallic quality. However, given the great variety in the living world there may be webbing clothes moths that are grey. Todd, they were in the bubble wrap that was protecting a framed reverse glass painting. I'm told that the painting had been in the box for some time but that may be speculation. The owner of the house was deceased and the house was described as somewhat dirty; dust, cobwebs etc. The packing has been disposed of and the box and painting are sealed in plastic until I get an idea of what we are dealing with. On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 2:55 PM Todd Holmberg <tholmb...@artsmia.org<mailto:tholmb...@artsmia.org>> wrote: Chris- The contents of the box might help point towards/rule out different varieties. Did the material in the box contain wool/feathers/fur? It definitely does resemble a webbing clothes moth. Maybe you have already done this, but just to confirm, hopefully the contents of the box have either been bagged or disposed of outside the museum building. -Todd On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 2:38 PM Miles, Steph <smi...@gallery.ca<mailto:smi...@gallery.ca>> wrote: Hi Chris, This definitely looks like a webbing clothes moth to me. I’m no expert, but as we’ve been combatting an infestation of these little nuisances for 18 months I’ve seen more than my fair share of this particular species. They also have that characteristic reddish hair tuft, and the light brown/gold-ish wings. The size is dead on, too. Hope this helps! 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I can't see any specks or spots on the wings that are more characteristic of casemaking or brown-dotted clothes moths (but that might just be a result of the lighting/angles in these images). I would defer to the experts if anyone else has a different ID, but it is definitely a species of clothes moth. 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