Mark, here's an alternate diffusion suggestion: white rip-stop nylon
fabric from the fabric store. Quite cheap, very white, and fairly heat
resistant. It's essentially what soft boxes use.


On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm just doing desktop macro work with a couple of goose neck desk lights
> and small pieces of white foam core for reflectors. Incandescent bulbs are
> an option but the heat is a concern. I currently use wax paper to diffuse
> the lighting - would need to rethink that approach with hot lights. In the
> past I have used flashes, but need continuous light to take advantage of
> pixel shift.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 2/28/2017 11:29 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> I agree that tungsten bulbs are generally quite good for faithful
>> colour, and it's easy to colour correct for them.
>>
>> OTOH, they are hot as hell. :)  I once did a fashion shoot using a
>> cheap $40 dual head 500W garage service light that I bounced off
>> reflectors inside a retail store, and just about cooked everybody. But
>> I loved the results.
>>
>> And one really nice thing about tungsten is that, like a lot of old
>> film gear, nobody wants it and it's cheap. I was recently given a
>> Lowel Tota in great shape, with a heat-resistant silver umbrella.
>> Almost $200 new at B&H.
>>
>> Those little common bayonet base tungsten halogen lamps with a 40
>> degree beam spread are great if you are lighting up close, like for
>> macro.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Bruce. I'm not trying for exact color reproduction but just want
>>> consistent results and reasonably rich colors. Some of the bulbs I've
>>> tried
>>> produce muddy colors and some are difficult to adjust / color correct.
>>> I'll
>>> continue experimenting and will  take a look at the LED panels. I took a
>>> look at the LED bulbs sold by B&W and they did not seem to have
>>> remarkable
>>> CRI ratings but were a lot brighter than what I can find retail.
>>>
>>>  From what I read it sounds like tungsten bulbs are generally excellent
>>> at
>>> color reproduction, so there is always that route as well.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/27/2017 4:58 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Whether you need to worry about CRI or not depends on how fussy you
>>>> are. If you are shooting products (including fashion) for a living you
>>>> would (or should, anyway) be fussy and CRI is critical. Also if you
>>>> shoot people and like your skin tones to be well rendered, or natural.
>>>>
>>>> So if you find that don't really care about CRI then any old light
>>>> sources will do and buying random LED bulbs until you get the results
>>>> you like will be fine.
>>>>
>>>> But if you, like me, really do care about CRI then I suggest you stick
>>>> to LED panels and bulbs that are made for photography. Avoid all the
>>>> consumer products (eg whatever's on sale at Walmart). LEDs that are
>>>> made for commercial store displays have better CRI because they care
>>>> about colour rendition for stuff they are selling. I have some of
>>>> those by way of Amazon and they have surprisingly nice light.
>>>>
>>>> See what B&H Photo or Adorama has available in your price range. The
>>>> 500 and 1000 LED panels are reasonably priced these days and put out a
>>>> lot of good light. Fotodiox is a more budget source with good strong
>>>> lights.
>>>>
>>>> Many photo LED panels use DC power, so definitely no flicker. AC
>>>> powered ones? Dunno.
>>>>
>>>> Where I notice CRI making a huge difference is when I shoot with a
>>>> calibrated colour workflow -- ie using a colour-checker card, and
>>>> calibrating the monitor with a colorimeter. Then I can really see what
>>>> normal consumer room lights do to skin versus shooting with strobes
>>>> that have a very high CRI. I can even tell the difference between
>>>> shooting with Profoto pack and head strobes and the less expensive
>>>> Paul Buff lights.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone here have advice about selecting LED lights for studio
>>>>> work?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried several consumer bands with mixed results. I understand that
>>>>> the
>>>>> color rendering index  (CRI) rating is supposed indicate how well the
>>>>> bulb
>>>>> displays colors, but my experience so far has not shows any strong
>>>>> correlation between that actual results.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far I've tried 4 different brands of bulbs, with the best results
>>>>> coming
>>>>> from Earthtronic bulbs with a mediocre CRI 81 and the worst coming from
>>>>> GE
>>>>> Reveal  with a respectable CRI 93. IMO, the Reveal bulb was the least
>>>>> accurate of all four brands that I tried in terms of color rendition
>>>>> and
>>>>> also banded noticeably (do LEDs flicker?)
>>>>>
>>>>> So - how do you tell what LED's will work the best - or it just trial
>>>>> and
>>>>> error?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
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