Probably my favorite longish lens
for many years was a Pentax A
70-210.
Had it been an F, I. might still have it.
 
J

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> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I've had and heavily use a brand new F 70- 210 for 28 years and have only one 
> real issue with it - the focus barrel, to which filters screw into, rotates 
> when it tries to attain focus, and subsequently I have to remember to reset 
> the polarizer filter - it obviously not a biggie, which is to say I really, 
> really like that lens, to the point that a few years back I picked up a 
> duplicate even though The original lens continues on like a storm trooper!
> 
> Probably my third most used lens.
> 
> Let's just keep it a secret P.J.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "P.J. Alling" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Really mini review comparing the F 70-210 to Sigma Zoom 70-210.
>> 
>> Most people don't care.  However I recently acquired, a "new", at least 
>> to me F 70-210 from KEH.com.  So I thought I'd post the salient points 
>> of the pros and cons of the two lenses.
>> 
>> First off I think I'll say I don't hate the Sigma, I just don't love it 
>> either and life is too short to put up with things you don't love if no 
>> one is paying you for too.
>> 
>> Physical comparison, the Pentax is about 1/2 inch, (~12mm), longer, only 
>> slightly wider in diameter, and surprisingly not that much heavier than 
>> the Sigma.
>> 
>> The Pentax is mostly metal, and the Sigma is mostly plastic, most of the 
>> weight in both lenses seems to be the glass.
>> 
>> I've partially torn down a F 70-210 Pentax, (and also received back the 
>> remnants of another used as a parts donor), so while looking at it from 
>> the outside it appears to be a much more solid build, there are 
>> decisions on interior construction that aren't quite so confidence 
>> inspiring.  I haven't torn down the Sigma but if it's anything like the 
>> plastic Pentax lenses I've had apart, it is, other than in materials, 
>> maybe better built.  It would certainly be harder for things to get out 
>> of alignment, (but once they do, in most cases, you might as well throw 
>> the whole mess away).
>> 
>> The Pentax has a very long focus throw, the focus ring is very narrow, 
>> manual focus dampening is relatively light, but not too unpleasant, and 
>> can be very accurate due to the long focus throw. Auto-focus can be slow 
>> if the camera decides to rack the lens from infinity to closest focus.  
>> The Sigma has a much wider manual focus ring, slightly better dampening 
>> and a much shorter focus throw, about 45° as opposed to almost 130° for 
>> the Pentax, so focusing when the Camera decides to rack the lens from 
>> closest focus to infinity is a bit faster.  Manual focusing is still 
>> pretty easy to be fairly accurate and one of the things I really like 
>> about the Sigma is, it's, for an auto-focus lens, luxurious wide focus 
>> ring.  That said, the K-5II very seldom racked the whole focus length to 
>> find proper focus, except under the dimmest of lighting conditions.
>> 
>> Optically the Pentax is just better, maybe not much, but enough that it 
>> was noticeable.  Pretty much at all focal lengths and apertures that I 
>> normally use.  I've owned three F 70-210mm lenses and the first was the 
>> best, sharp at all focal lengths, the second was a little soft at around 
>> 210mm but still not too bad, the new one is probably somewhere between 
>> the the first and second.  The Sigma was never quite as sharp at any 
>> focal length as the second Pentax.  Not really bad it could be mostly 
>> corrected in post processing, just not as quite as sharp.
>> 
>> The Pentax focuses closer, the Sigma claims a 1:4.7 reproduction ratio, 
>> (it's written right there on the focusing scale), the Pentax according 
>> to Boz' site has a 1:4 reproduction ratio, it doesn't seem like much of 
>> a difference, but once again it feels noticeable, I was always 
>> frustrated with the Sigma in that regard.
>> 
>> The Sigma is not as flare resistant as the Pentax, or maybe it is in 
>> different ways.  It seems to be more prone to veiling flare, so if a 
>> bright light source is even close to being in frame there is a 
>> noticeable loss of contrast and sharpness, the SMC coating on the Pentax 
>> even though 15 years older is much more effective than the Sigma's.  
>> Still it's hard to get actual flair artifacts with either lens at least 
>> on a digital camera.  I don't have the dedicated lens hood for the 
>> Sigma, and an after market lens hood was one of those things I kept 
>> putting off buying.  I adopted an old Super Takumar lens hood for the 
>> Pentax which works perfectly for the focal lengths on APS-C.
>> 
>> Bokeh is different, but a lot of that has to do with how busy the 
>> background is neither of these lenses will ever be mistaken for being 
>> fast, so that's kind of a non issue. There are lots of other minor 
>> differences, most of which aren't important in the digital era, such as 
>> color rendering more a matter of taste, and easily manipulated in photo 
>> software.
>> 
>> I guess I could go on a lot longer.  Let's get to the bottom line.
>> 
>> The Sigma is a real bargain, you can pick one up for less than $40. in 
>> Ex to LN condition, (or as KEH.com would call it Bargain), or for free, 
>> the way I did. Optical and mechanical quality is reasonable, you get a 
>> lot more than your 40 bucks worth. It's so cheap that it's almost not 
>> worth selling it.  So I'm not going to.  It will sit on the shelf 
>> collecting dust, (as a backup for that inevitable day when something 
>> comes loose in the F 70-210 and I have do decide to repair or replace), 
>> next to my film cameras and actual great lenses I seldom seem to use 
>> because they are inconvenient,  (more convenient to use on a Pentax 
>> Digital than if I was a Canon user with a collection of the same 
>> vintage, but still)...
>> 
>> The Pentax is just better, slightly heavier, slightly bigger, mostly 
>> metal with that cool feel of solidity that the K-5II has in the hand.  
>> They don't look like they were made for each other, (in fact F lenses in 
>> that greenish grey color are some of the silliest looking lenses in my 
>> opinion), but they feel like they were made for each other.  Sharper at 
>> all focal lengths  and f stops, than the Sigma, more flair resistant, 
>> just all around, better, and you can find it /nearly/ as inexpensively 
>> as the Sigma.
>> 
>> -- 
>> I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve 
>> immortality through not dying.
>> -- Woody Allen
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