>   6. Re: OT - Kodak Created it's own Doomsday Device (John Sessoms)
>
> When I worked as a contractor for the IBM PC Company back in the late
> 90s, 3 out of 4 of the people in my department were there on H1b visas.
> IBM *STRONGLY* discouraged discussion of compensation, but if you kept
> your mouth shut and your ears open you could still get a good idea what
> was really going on.
>
> IBM contracted for H1b employees through certain brokers. The brokers
> were paid the "prevailing wage" for the workers they provided, and were
> in turn responsible for paying the "guest workers" and providing
> whatever benefits they saw fit. IBM didn't have to figure Social
> Security, other payroll taxes, nor insurance or any benefits.
>
> The brokers were responsible for getting the guest worker the visa and
> getting them over here to work (although I believe IBM did provide some
> paperwork to indicate they were unable to find qualified citizens to
> fill the jobs - a patent lie, because the RTP where I worked was started
> specifically to bring high tech jobs into the area and there was a
> consortium of Universities, Colleges, Community Colleges and Tech
> Institutes all organized to train workers to fill those jobs). There
> were plenty of well trained local graduates begging for jobs.
>
> IBM used H1b visas to force down the local wage base. Keep in mind also
> that North Carolina is one of those terrible "right to work" states, so
> there was NO UNION pressure on IBM at RTP.
>

I believe you 100%. It's also why when I hear politicians talk about
job creation I know it's just a bunch of hooey since many of them,
regardless of party, are board members and/or major stock holders in
the corporations that have these practices.

It's also why I live where I do now (not that it's any better here -
it's not). In late 1999 in Seattle, rolling off an SAP contract I'd
been on for 2 1/2 years, the prevailing rate I could get for my next
contract was 33% lower than what I was currently making, because
Microsoft was a leader in hiring H-1B immigrants and had capped their
rate and every other company in the area followed suit. So I looked
out of town.

Things fluctuate but I wasn't going to swallow a 33% pay cut at that
point in time when I was actually worth more.

The company I'm contracting for now has a physical jobs board with
paper listings where they post current openings. Every single one (8 -
10 currently) is seeking an H1-B status individual. These are Software
and Electronics Engineering jobs.

Tom C.

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