right, I guess every camera they come out with from now now on should be the (new)K20D...
JC O'Connell [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:58 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Whats with recent Pentax Camera names? Who gives a f&%k what a camera is named? People pissed & moaned about the *ist series, but still manage/d to take photos with them. DS 2009/2/19 JC OConnell <[email protected]>: > Sorry, but KM and K-m are the only ones I hear as sounding the same. > All those others are clearly different. "XN" sounds like TEN" to you? > Not to me. > > JC O'Connell > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Graydon > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:31 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Whats with recent Pentax Camera names? > > > This: > > K1000, KM, KX, MX, K2, K2DMD, ME Super, LX, ME, MV, MV1, MG, ME F, > Super A, Super Program, Program A, Program Plus, A3, A3000, P3, P30, > P3n, P30n, P30t, P5, P50, SFX, SF1, SF7, SF10, SFXn, SF1n, Z-1p, > PZ-1p, Z-1, PZ-1 Z-5p, Z-5, Z-10, PZ-10, Z-20, PZ-20, Z-50p, Z-70, > PZ-70, MZ-S MZ-M, ZX-M, MZ-5, ZX-5, MZ-5n, ZX-5n, MZ-10, ZX-10, MZ-6, > ZX-L, MZ-7, ZX-7, MZ-30, ZX-30, MZ-50, ZX-50, MZ-60, ZX-60, *ist, *ist > D series, K100D, K110D, K100D Super, K200D, K-m, K2000, K10D, and > K20D. > > does not strike me as an example of an historical practise of ideal > nomenclatural disambiguation. > > I'd consider "SF10" and "SFXn" to sound at least vaguely similar when > spoken; three P30s, many MZs, ZXs, Zs, PZs in there, too. > > The original KM went out of production in 1977, and the folks who > remember it as an active product will be getting thin on the ground at > Pentax. (Presumably especially in marketing.) > > Also, to a kanji reader, KM and K-m are going to be obviously > different; if you can tell 鳥 and 馬apart as a regular thing (that's > "bird" and "horse" and I only know about this from having had to print > Chinese output in a previous life; I can neither speak nor read it) so > I suspect the folks at Pentax think the name is the same. > > -- Graydon > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 05:56:02PM -0500, JC OConnell scripsit: >> when in the past did they have new models that "sounded" just like >> old > >> models? >> >> JC O'Connell >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Graydon >> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:52 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Whats with recent Pentax Camera names? >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 05:32:49PM -0500, JC OConnell scripsit: >> > Are they that thick headed/uncreative that they cant think of new >> > model names? Its not like cars where you have a '75 KM and a '09 >> > KM. > >> > They are both model KM(K-M). Thats lazy if not stupid. I dont think >> > there is any big marketing value in "KM" either like calling it a >> > K1000 or LX or something. >> >> They could call it Cloud of Weasels, too, but it (I suspect) is a >> conscious move to get away from number names. No one ever knows if >> you're supposed to count down (the 1 is the best one), up (the 1000 >> is > >> the best one), or if the 110 is better than the 100i. >> >> I'm half expecting they're actually using "m" for "mille", thousand; >> this is the K2000 but that abbreviates to K-m, so the next one is the >> K-m2, etc. until someone decides a nomenclature refresh is in order >> again. (Or maybe 3, in a fit of wild consistency with the abandoned >> numerical system.) >> >> If so, that would make the K300D the K-c ("centi", hundred), the K30D >> the K-d ("decem", "decim", "deci", etc.; ten), and the >> much-hypothesized K3D the K-u ("unus", one) but even Pentax marketing >> might balk at that. I certainly hope they'll balk at K-p ("primus", >> first), so perhaps the pro model will be the only one to retain its >> numeric designation. Or maybe they'll decide "P is for pro" just as >> readily as "M is for mama". ("C is for competent", "D is for >> determined"?) >> >> It's got the sort of demented logic to it that Pentax marketing has >> been known to use in the past. >> >> -- Graydon >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and > >> follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
