In general, barrel distortion gives you a barrel shape, much like  
parenthesis facing each other. Perspective distortion gives you a  
pyramid shape. The outer verticals lean in. Perspective distortion is  
easy to correct in PhotoShop using Edit/Transform/Perspective. After  
correction, you have to crop, and you'll  lose a bit of the frame.  
Frequently, I apply just a small amount of correction. You don't want  
perfectly aligned verticals for most shots.

Barrel distortion can be corrected as well, but it's more difficult  
and usually not necessary. In PhotoShop Edit/Transform/Distort can  
help some, but there are third party lens correction tools that do a  
better job. However, I don't find that any of my lenses, including  
the 16-45 and 12-24, produce severe enough barrel distortion to  
require correction for normal use. I only remember using such a tool  
once. It was for a 12mm shot that included a vertical right near the  
edge of frame. A tiny bit of barrel distortion was visible after the  
perspective had been corrected. Rob told me how to fix it, and I did,  
but I don't remember the specific tool I used.
Paul
On Nov 9, 2007, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I can't call this a stupid newbie question,  because I am not a newbie
> anymore. ;-)
>
> Previously I have not shot much  with wide angles. I used my Canon  
> 17-40 in
> Yosemite and thought I noticed some  trees leaning in slightly in  
> some shots.
> But only slightly.
>
> I have  noticed a lot of distortion using the 16-45 on the K100D.  
> While
> sometimes I  don't mind this, other times I have been annoyed  
> because I wasn't
> taking it into  account. I am also reassessing the lens.
>
> However, I realize I am not all  that clear on the difference  
> between barrel
> distortion and perspective  distortion.
>
> I also realize that getting more in the frame than normal   
> perspective would
> allow must mean something will happen.
>
> I am curious if  there is a formula for when perspective distortion  
> will not
> occur, or some focal  length at which it will not occur? Would  
> about 45mm be
> the cut off point -- it  won't occur at 45mm? As for barrel  
> distortion, it
> seems to be depend on the  lens. It seems people use brick wall to  
> test for barrel
> distortion. Is that  true, some wide angles have barrel distortion  
> and some
> do not? Or do they all to  some degree?
>
> As you can tell, I am not quite sure how to phrase this  question.
>
> Basically what I want to know is when I shoot with the 16-45  when  
> I will get
> some distortion and when I am likely not to. So I can take it  into  
> account
> and plan for it. And use the 16mm end or zoom in a bit more to   
> avoid it when I
> want to avoid it.
>
> And anyone who wants to expound more on  the difference between barrel
> distortion and perspective distortion, too, feel  free. I am pretty  
> clueless on the
> whole topic.
>
> I think this is  perspective distortion... (which I don't mind in  
> this case,
> but this is not the  strongest example, just one I have  shown)
>
> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/temple2.htm
>
> I  think this was may be barrel distortion. When I looked at it I  
> found the
> lamp  post leaning in, so I straighten the picture in Elements 5 with
> Transform/Skew.  Hence the distortion isn't showing anymore, but it  
> was  there.
>
> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/bars.htm
>
> I can  go back and look at exitf if needed, but I think the top was  
> shot at
> 16mm and  the lower one longer.
>
> TIA for anything you want to offer, Marnie aka Doe  :-)
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