This is one the fellow on the list who is saving quotes should save.  Well
said and very true.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Mark Cassino 

> Hi Boris -
>
> I have not been following the 'stinkin filters thread, but I'll jump in
here 
> anyhow :-0
>
> I sell a fair number of photos, both as individual prints and for 
> publication, and I also do the occasional art fair and stint on the sales 
> floor in gallery co-ops, so I've had a chance to see what goes into
people's 
> decision making process when buying photos or other art work.
>
> To be frank, the general merits of the piece, the subtle aspects and
nuance 
> of design and composition, are more or less secondary in most purchase 
> decision.  Subject is one of the primary drivers.  For individual print 
> sales, people look at the subject matter first, then colors, size, how it 
> integrates with other decorative objects, and somewhere down the list -
the 
> overall quality of the piece.  Color is important - people walk up to
photos 
> and paintings holding paint chips from their newly redecorated bedrooms,
and 
> look for decorations that match them - size is important, and only
somewhere 
> down the line does quality and impact of the work come into play.  I've
seen 
> many situations where people stop to admire a particular work, return to
it 
> often, but don't buy it because it just won't work in their homes.  So, 
> except when the for the rare connoisseur or collector comes into play, I 
> don't think sales of individual pieces means a lot in terms of the pure 
> quality of the work.  You can learn more by watching people's reactions
to 
> photos, than by what they buy.
>
> Publication photo editors are more sophisticated, but again are driven by 
> objectives other than just the quality of the work.  Size constraints, 
> aspect ratio, blank space available to have text laid over it, how the
piece 
> integrates into the overall layout and design of the article are all
factors 
> that drive the selection decision.   People who are laying out
publications 
> are probably more driven by those issues than just the quality of the 
> individual piece - for them, the photos that they buy are the building 
> blocks of a larger work that they are constructing.
>
> And in all cases - don't forget price.  Both individuals and photo
editors 
> are working within budgets, and will juggle their purchases to try to
stay 
> on target.
>
> And, of course, the trite and the hackneyed have tremendous marketability
- 
> even more than the innovative and sublime.  So at the end of they day, I 
> don't think sales really tell you much.
>
> I also participate in juried shows and I do think that they provide a
good 
> sense of what a particular individual thinks about your work.  Getting
in, 
> getting an award, getting a sense of the competitive field and the 
> qualifications of the juror are all useful.  But it has its limit.  I've 
> talked with jurors who tell me that they are concerned with 'building a 
> coherent exhibit," so - like the photo editor - they may be looking for 
> pieces that work together and that may be mean that really spectacular 
> pieces get set aside, because they don't work with the balance of the
whole 
> show. And with jurors and judges, individual quirks and biases come into 
> play.  You may have a juror who is not a photographer and will judge work 
> totally differently than a photographer, for example. So, the juried
shows 
> and competitions offer more valuable feedback, IMO, than just sales, but
you 
> are looking at a fairly narrow bit of feedback (the opinion of the judge
or 
> juror.)
>
> Personally - what really matters is your own feeling about the image.
People 
> bring their own biases and experiences to a photo and that affects how
they 
> react to it.  Last year I sold a landscape to someone who had a couple of 
> family members die at the very place I chose for my photo. For them it
was a 
> very moving image, but in a context totally different than what I
intended 
> when I created it.
>
> IMO - If you can look at a photo for a year and still like it, if you can 
> articulate what the photo means and how it expresses that, if you can 
> understand how the design elements in the image work, then it's probably
a 
> good photo. If other people don't 'get' it - you are hanging in the wrong 
> crowd.  If people see something there that you don't intend (or don;t
even 
> see) - don't let it go to your head.  Ultimately, the validation (and
harsh 
> criticism!) has to come from within - I don't think its something that 
> others can impart, no matter how much stuff they buy,  medals they award,
or 
> insults they hurl.
>
> My two cents!
>
> - MCC
>
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> Mark Cassino Photography
> Kalamazoo, MI
> www.markcassino.com
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 12:43 AM
> Subject: To Herb Chong et al
>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Herb, I followed the "no stinking filters" thread for some time. I have
a 
> > question.
> >
> > You may argue that if a photo sold, it means that it managed to
overcome 
> > some competition... Hence it is rather good one...
> >
> > What about those photos that participate in (international) contests
and 
> > get mentions or even prizes?
> >
> > Boris
> > 


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