You have completely missed my point so I am not going to "drop it". I do NOT "like fast films" because the quality is not as good as the slower films but given a choice of two films with EXACT SAME IMAGE QUALITY I would take the much faster one in a minute. I rarely if ever have a problem with my shutter speeds needed being too fast for the camera.
I am nearly always wishing I had WAY more film speed without giving up quality. This is especially true with large format because the lenses are longer, the resolution is higher and that means you need faster speeds to prevent blur and much smaller fstops ( to get sufficent DOF) so I would LOVE to be able to get faster films with same exact quality as todays slower ones. I think you are arguing that slow and fast films are different and they are as it is today but I what I am saying is if the fast ones had exact same image quality as the slow ones the slow ones would be obsolete because slower is worse from a practical standpoint nearly all the time. JCO -----Original Message----- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ?? For some people that's fine. For the kind of photography I do, adding filters is a PITA. With the slr's the ND filter reduces the amount of light through the finder. Not so good for me ... I like bright contrasty finders. Look, let's just drop it. You like fast films, they work for you. I prefer a slower film whenever possible. They work for me. And, as I said before, and as Bill pointed out, the differences in grain, tonality, and feel of one film compared to another are noticeable and important considerations for some photographers, myself included. And, just to add a bit of emphasis, my cameras don't have fast shutter speeds. Rarely will I use the Leicas at anything faster than 1/500, but I do shoot a lot between 1/8 and 1/30 hand held. Shel (Rarely is all else equal) > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 10/24/2004 9:42:03 AM > Subject: RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ?? > > oh yeah, > > Faster is better in that you can "slow down" fast > films with simple ND filters IF YOU REALLY NEEDED TO, > but there is no way to "speed up" slower films in > such as simple way and without losing quality the > way push processing does.

