Rubish, I have compared records played back on a LP12 and CD on a top of the
line LINN CD player with DAC and there really was no discernable quality
difference. When CD frist came out perhaps you could have argued there was a
difference - but nowadays things are a lot better.

By the way JCO. Please STOP SHOUTING IT IS GETTING FUCKING ANOYING OK.

A.


On 26/8/04 7:48 pm, "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> FALSE, great LP reproduction ( I'm talking $10K and up
> playback equipment ) sounds so much more like REAL LIVE
> SOUND/MUSIC than CD it isnt even close. Its LESS distortion,
> not more that makes it better.
> 
> JCO
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 35 vs digi - Some points to ponder.
> 
> 
> This person has an interesting website talking about this whole thing,
> which of course is a long stewing religious argument:
> 
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/christie/comparo/part4.html
> 
> No real conclusions, but s/he makes drops the hint that people probably
> like the sound that results from the type of distortions that LP brings,
> 
> hence the "it sounds better to me" argument is what it all boils down
> to.
> 
> frank theriault wrote:
> 
>> A couple of thoughts, and then that's it for me on this most OT of
>> threads:
>> 
>> First, I don't give a rat's ass about what engineers say, what numbers
>> say, what theory says.
>> 
>> I listen to music.  My ears decide what sounds best, not numbers or
>> theory.  No, I'm not an engineer or a scientist, I don't know any
> theory 
>> at all.  But, I know what I hear.
>> 
>> I have a pretty decent CD playback system.  Not high end or
>> audiophile,
>> but better than most people have.  It sounds pretty good.
>> 
>> I had (before a CD rack fell on it and bent the tonearm - how's that
>> for
>> irony!!) a pretty good vinyl playback system.  Not audiophile, but
>> better than most.  It would always amaze me.
>> 
>> There was a certain "punch" and portrayal of dynamics that I heard
>> from
>> vinyl that my CD's weren't able to reproduce.  There was a much better
> 
>> soundstage, better space between the instruments that I couldn't hear
> on 
>> my CD's.
>> 
>> Am I saying that vinyl or analogue is always better than digital?
>> Nope.  Just that in my system, vinyl was better.  It did wear faster,
> so 
>> I didn't play it all that often.
>> 
>> Point two:  CD's are deteriorating at a much faster rate than experts
>> predicted.  Some are unplayable, as the little pits that the laser
> reads 
>> are becoming craters, and therefore unreadable.  Experts don't know
> why, 
>> but improper manufacturing techniques may be to blame - whatever, it's
> 
>> happening regardless of whether the CD's are even played or not.
>> 
>> I agree with JCO with his comment on analogue master tapes.  I've got
>> some CD's made from old jazz masters (Rudy Van Geller rereleases) that
> 
>> are quite astounding for 40 and 45 year old tapes.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> frank
>> 
>> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The
>> pessimist fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: RE: 35 vs digi - Some points to ponder.
>>> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:17:04 -0400
>>> 
>>> EVER heard of better sound? I never said ANALOG tape recording is
>>> perfect, it isnt, neither is digtial. But the really high end analog
>>> recordings are much better than most digital recordings in existance.
> 
>>> The number of musical master recordings made at 24/196k is still
>>> miniscule. Most are 16bit/48K from about 1980 to 1995.
>>> 
>>> Regarding shedding, Steve Hoffman, one of the worlds
>>> most respected mastering engineers ( he does both
>>> analog LP cuttings and digital CD/DVD/SACD) claims
>>> that nearly every vintage analog master tape he
>>> has ever worked with is in EXCELLENT to LIKE NEW condtion. He claims
>>> that analog tape degradation is a myth.
>>> 
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