Thanks everyone for your replies...

I just sent this email to Bruce and thought I'd post it here as well to save
retyping it:

"I have actually wanted the Tamron 28-75/2.8 for quite a while now. I even
have an ad. out of a photo mag stuck up on my wall! lol.  However, in recent
weeks, I have heard others mentioning the other brands and have wondered how
they compare - hence the reason for my post...

...The weight issue with the Tokina is not really to much of a concern to me
as I love the fact that they are built so solidly.  However, there are SO
many versions of the Tokina, it is truly difficult to know which would be
the best way to go.

I have, since posting, found an interesting web page with direct comparisons
between the Tokina and the Sigma and the Sigma is definitely out of the
running!

The Tamron is still "out there" in front though.  And I own other Tamron
lenses that I love, so this kind of helps me to feel confident about
possibly purchasing it in the future."

For those interested, the web page that I am referring to above is:

http://www.tawbaware.com/sigma_tokina_test1.htm

In regards to the Tokina - it is really hard to know what to do here - some
have suggested to stay away from the 28-70 versions, and to go with the
28-80 which is apparently, optically fantastic.  Others then mention that
the 28-80 is incredibly heavy, but the newer version addresses this issue.
Then others again say that the 28-70 f2.6-2.8 is a really great lens too!  I
am guessing that due to the fact that the 28-70/2.8 is rather prolific at
keh.com that it is probably not the one to go with.  I have seen the
28-70/2.6-2.8 on Ebay recently and fetching around the US$200 mark, in its
original box etc.  I am yet to come across the 28-80 ANYWHERE, except B&H
where it is USD$549 *eek, that is like AUD$800*!

Sooo, thus far, the Tamron APPEARS to be "winning" the race, which is kind
of ironic really as it is the one that I have always wanted to buy anyways.
At least, I guess that all of this isn't in vain if I do end up getting that
one, as I will know that I have made the correct choice!

tan.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 16 May 2004 9:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The best 28-70 f2.8 zoom?


Hi Tan,

I've got a Tokina 28-80 ATX-Pro f2.8, and I really like it. They are a
heavy sucker though, because they are built like a tank. Most f2.8
constant lenses are bigger and heavier though.

This lens flares a bit more than an SMC lens, but the results are still
generally pleasing. AF is fast and accurate. They are reasonably cheap
too...I think I paid about $600.00 AUD for mine 18 months ago.

Cheers

Shaun

Dr. Shaun Canning
Cultural Heritage Services
11 Lawrence Way
Karratha, Western Australia,
6714

0414-967644
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.heritageservices.com.au


-----Original Message-----
From: TMP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 7:25 PM
To: Net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The best 28-70 f2.8 zoom?


Woohoo! I'm back in business, so here is the first of the posts I've
been
trying to send all day...



I notice a few people posting that they are looking for a constant
aperture
auto focus zoom available in a Pentax mount, that is around the 28-70mm
(or
28-80, 28-75, 24-70, 24-90, 28-105 etc) mark.  So, I was wondering -
aside
from the Pentax FA 28-70 f2.8, which lens is generally thought of as the
"best" in or around this range?

So, I am referring only to the "latest" AUTO FOCUS models available, as
I
know that there have been many variations over the years.  Or if you
have a
particular favourite of a certain model that exceeds what is currently
on
the market, please feel free to name that one too. (eg, Tokina ATX Pro
II
etc).

The Tokina 28-70 f2.8?

The Sigma 24-70 f2.8 or ?

The Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 macro?

And, I just discovered that Sigma has two lenses available - they are
28-70
f2.8-4, and a 28-105 f2.8-4.  They are only USD$119 and $199
respectively at
B&H.  Anyone have any experience with these?

I particularly like the 28-105mm focal length (I have the Pentax
28-105mm FA
Powerzoom, and I love it, but at f4-f5.6, it is just too slow), and the
Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4 would certainly address the issue of speed that I
have
with the Pentax FA 28-105, but with these two Sigma lenses being so
inexpensive, it makes me wonder why it is the case...

Also, how many of the above have macro capabilities?

And why is your particular choice your favourite? Bokeh? Sharpness?
Flare
(or lack of it)? Build quality? AF Speed? Price? Value for money? etc...

Also, is f2.8 the fastest anyone has ever seen in a zoom lens of
constant
aperture? Is there any record of anything faster ever being produced?

So, here is my "wish list" for such a lens - a sharp, nice bokeh'd AUTO
FOCUS lens, focal length of 28-105mm, f2.8 constant aperture, less than
usd$400.  I'm not asking for much, am I?!? lol.

Then, after this one peters out, I'll post another similar topic
covering
the f2.8, 80-200-ish zooms.

I don't own any of the above lenses, so I can't really participate here,
but
I am leaning towards possibly purchasing the Tamron (when I can afford
it!)...

tan.




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