Is the gist of this "size does matter"?



>Of course, this conversation seems to be somewhat limited as to what a "pro"

>is.
>
>More than a few photographers who make a living at this use, for instance M

>series Leicas (Salgado, for one, although he also uses R series slr's, and

>they ain't small).
>
>Last summer, I was shooting some frames at Toronto's Gay Pride Parade 
>(always a good spectacle), and I noticed a fellow with a truly beat up 
>looking M3.  It had been painted olive drab (didn't look like a factory 
>job), and had so much brassing that there seemed to be more brass than 
>paint.
>
>He told me it had actually been through many war zones, but that it was a 

>great street camera, due in part to it's shabby looks.  He assured me it 
>still worked like a charm.  Hmmmm.  A forty year old camera that's been to

>war, and still works.  I'd say that is the very definition of reliability,

>despite it's small size  <g>.
>
>For some styles of photography, big is a downright disadvantage.  I know on

>the street, more people look at my camera when it's the LX, a Spotmatic or

>even the MX when I have the Winder MX on it.  I get very few noticing me 
>when I have the Leica CL slung over my shoulder.
>
>Anyway, my main point is that not all pros are PJ's (not that you said they

>were - I'm just expanding the convo a bit), and that some of those other 
>pros have vastly different needs from their cameras.
>
>regards,
>frank
>
>"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist

>fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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>>Subject: big is beautiful
>>Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:12:18 -0600 (CST)
>>
>> >From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> >Small black cameras do not have the psychological impact with
>> >photographers's
>> >customers that big black cameras do. To a very large percent of the
>> >population's
>> >minds "big black camera" and "pro" are synonymous.
>>
>>I agree that carrying a big black camera and a big black bag tends to get

>>respect.  I normally take the camera out of the bag and drape it around
>>my neck when I'm going to sporting events just to make it clear to the
>>guys at the gate why I'm not handing them a ticket.  I find that I get
>>a lot less hassle that way.
>>
>> >You better believe that Nikon and Canon know this, and it is why their
>> >top end
>> >cameras are 1/2 again as large as they need to be.
>>
>>No.  Nikon has been trying damn hard to make their pro cameras smaller,
>>probably a result of getting an earful over the size of the F4 which many

>>small-handed photogs disliked and even I will admit was HEAVY.
>>A lot of the extra size is for the extra batteries which are needed to
>>drive the things at warp speed, plus the actual warp motors which are not

>>small.  Back in the old days, most of the warp drives were external
>>(just like on the Enterprise) and the Nikon F2 and F3 were not much
>>bigger than the Spotmatics or K-series except the full-frame, high
>>eyepoint viewfinders.
>>The top end Nikon and Canon cameras are bigger because they are tougher
>>and more capable than anything else out there, and you just can't shrink
>>that but so much.
>>
>> >So as a pro camera, yes the small size is a fault. As a user's camera, no

>> >it is
>> >not, in fact it is a major benefit.
>>
>>It's not so much that the public doesn't trust pros with small cameras,
>>but that pros don't themselves trust small cameras.  Something that small

>>can't be tough enough and capable enough, they think.  I remember one
>>member of the white house press corps describing the Nikon 8008, which was

>>the second best camera in the Nikon line at the time, as "a lightweight".

>>My own experience tends to confirm the relatively lower durability of
>>small cameras.
>>
>>DJE
>>
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