With all due respect, Shel - you're talking through your hat.
We don't tell you how to do candid street photography; why are you trying to tell us how to photograph moving vehicles? (And, especially, moving vehicles at night; a very tricky area). Arnie doesn't, as yet, have the experience necessary to pan-track a vehicle over 1/4 of a second (I'm not sure *I've* got that). it's obvious what he's going for - the background tracks of a long exposure tell the story of motion. But blurring the detail of the car detracts from the image; using a flash to capture the detail of the primary subject will let him capture the image he seems to be trying to get. Maybe, in a couple of years, he'll be able to get it wothout a flash. But for now a (second-curtain) flash is something he should at least try. > Good for you, Arnie ... > > arnie wrote: > > > i specifically didnt want to use a flash - that was the whole point. it does > > take a little practice, maybe next time i'll be more successful. > > >

