Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your clarification! It is much better for understanding. 
It would be better to add your explanation into the section 4.1 and remove the 
sentence "A Tunnel is identified by PLSP-ID".

And from my veiw, the LSPs and Tunnels are all RSVP-signaled objects. But in 
PCEP-sepcific context, there is just LSP object. It may be confused with the 
first sentence in section 4.1.

Best Regards,
Quan


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Date: 2025年04月09日 22:58
Subject: Re: Re:[Pce] WG Adoption of draft-koldychev-pce-operational-09



Hi Quan,
 
Thank you for your support and review. Will include all of your notes and 
suggestions when doing the next iteration.
 
Fair point about the potential conflict in sentencing. I believe the intent was 
to help distinguish the objects a bit more since the term 'LSP' is used in 
different context in RFC8231. If you consider RFC8231 on one hand says an LSP 
has a PLSP-ID that never changes, but on the other hand a PLSP-ID object also 
has(or is?) one or many 'LSPs' in flight for the same PLSP-ID with differing 
LSP-IDs for MBB. The use of introducing the 'Tunnel' term I believe was to help 
distinguish the PLSP-ID identified object, which is logically like a container, 
from, its individual instances of an LSP (identified by the LSP-ID) contained 
within it.  Does this explanation help at all? Or would it help if the text 
explained and correlated the two sentences together?
 
Thanks
Andrew
 


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Hi WG,
 
I think this document is useful and it helps me to understand the aspects of 
PCEP database.
I support the adoption as an informational I-D. But I suggest to fix the 
following problems before adoption.
 
1,When I read this document, I found it a little hard to understand with the 
editorial issues. 
For example, in section 4, I suggest to move the LSP-DB (a database of actual 
LSP state) to the terminology section.
And it would be better to use formal English expression such as replacing "we" 
to "it".
 
OLD:
"We use the concept of the LSP-DB, as a database of actual LSP state in the 
network, to illustrate the internal state of PCEP speakers in response to 
various PCEP messages."
NEW:
"The concept of the LSP-DB, as a database of actual LSP state in the network, 
is used to illustrate the internal state of PCEP speakers in response to 
various PCEP messages."
 
OLD:
"We take the term "LSP" to apply to non-MPLS paths as well, to avoid changing 
the name.  Alternatively, we could rename LSP to "Instance"."
NEW:
"It could take the term "LSP" to apply to non-MPLS paths as well, to avoid 
changing the name.  Alternatively, it also could rename LSP to "Instance"."
 
OLD:
"dataplane"
NEW:
"data plane"
 
OLD:
"SYMBOLIC-NAME"
NEW
"SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV"
 
OLD:
"a instance of a Tunnel"
NEW:
"an instance of a Tunnel"
 
2,And I am confused with the defination in section 4.1 "A Tunnel is identified 
by the PLSP-ID in the LSP object and/or the SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV." and  "it(a 
Tunnel) can have multiple LSPs".
But it will be conflict with RFC8231 section 7.3, "PLSP-ID (20 bits): A 
PCEP-specific identifier for the LSP.  A PCC creates a unique PLSP-ID for each 
LSP that is constant for the lifetime of a PCEP session."
Could you please help to clarify that? Thanks!
 
Best Regards,
Quan
 
 
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