Hi Quan,

Thank you for your support and review. Will include all of your notes and 
suggestions when doing the next iteration.

Fair point about the potential conflict in sentencing. I believe the intent was 
to help distinguish the objects a bit more since the term 'LSP' is used in 
different context in RFC8231. If you consider RFC8231 on one hand says an LSP 
has a PLSP-ID that never changes, but on the other hand a PLSP-ID object also 
has(or is?) one or many 'LSPs' in flight for the same PLSP-ID with differing 
LSP-IDs for MBB. The use of introducing the 'Tunnel' term I believe was to help 
distinguish the PLSP-ID identified object, which is logically like a container, 
from, its individual instances of an LSP (identified by the LSP-ID) contained 
within it.  Does this explanation help at all? Or would it help if the text 
explained and correlated the two sentences together?

Thanks
Andrew

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Hi WG,



I think this document is useful and it helps me to understand the aspects of 
PCEP database.

I support the adoption as an informational I-D. But I suggest to fix the 
following problems before adoption.



1,When I read this document, I found it a little hard to understand with the 
editorial issues.

For example, in section 4, I suggest to move the LSP-DB (a database of actual 
LSP state) to the terminology section.

And it would be better to use formal English expression such as replacing "we" 
to "it".



OLD:

"We use the concept of the LSP-DB, as a database of actual LSP state in the 
network, to illustrate the internal state of PCEP speakers in response to 
various PCEP messages."

NEW:

"The concept of the LSP-DB, as a database of actual LSP state in the network, 
is used to illustrate the internal state of PCEP speakers in response to 
various PCEP messages."



OLD:

"We take the term "LSP" to apply to non-MPLS paths as well, to avoid changing 
the name.  Alternatively, we could rename LSP to "Instance"."

NEW:

"It could take the term "LSP" to apply to non-MPLS paths as well, to avoid 
changing the name.  Alternatively, it also could rename LSP to "Instance"."



OLD:

"dataplane"

NEW:

"data plane"



OLD:

"SYMBOLIC-NAME"

NEW

"SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV"



OLD:

"a instance of a Tunnel"

NEW:

"an instance of a Tunnel"



2,And I am confused with the defination in section 4.1 "A Tunnel is identified 
by the PLSP-ID in the LSP object and/or the SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV." and  "it(a 
Tunnel) can have multiple LSPs".

But it will be conflict with RFC8231 section 7.3, "PLSP-ID (20 bits): A 
PCEP-specific identifier for the LSP.  A PCC creates a unique PLSP-ID for each 
LSP that is constant for the lifetime of a PCEP session."

Could you please help to clarify that? Thanks!



Best Regards,

Quan





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