Hi PCE WG, Authors,

Thanks for the submitting and working on the document.  It’s a very clear read.

I initially had some interest on this document when it was presented in one of 
the IETF sessions, however, find myself retracting on how to achieve it with 
encodings.

I view using PCEP direct payload encoding as valuable information 
exchange(config and/or state) when that exchange is mutually beneficial for 
each PCEP speaker to achieve interoperable path-computation/placement. For 
one-sided configuration, that can be conveyed alternatively with 
policy/template and/or out of band netconf/gnmi/snmp etc. i.e try to avoid 
using PCEP for just a network device configuration conduit.

Configuring BFD on PCC seems very one sided / uni-directional in usefulness, as 
it seems to only be of benefit to the PCC local config, with minimal value 
return to PCE other than being a config conduit (or perhaps I’m missing 
something).

Some follow up questions:


  *   PCE already has operational state and active state in PcRpt, would 
knowing whether BFD is enabled/disabled be of benefit to PCE?
     *   ->From my experience so far, no, not really. Knowing why BFD is 
failing operationally would be useful, but that’s beyond config enablement.



  *   Is the use case for PcUpd to turn on/off BFD actually required?
     *   ->My understanding is you’d generally decide upfront whether BFD is to 
be enabled or not and stick with it.



  *   Similar to Cheng’s comment, it could be achieved via 
draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles or RFC9005, Was that mechanism evaluated?
     *   -> it fits nicely due to the one side, uni-directional scenario and 
would not need PCEP maintenance for any new BFD or other similar one-sided 
knobs. No new PCEP extensions required, but an informational document could be 
created to inform this is how you can use path profiles or association policy 
to achieve BFD config.

Thanks!
Andrew


From: Dhruv Dhody <d...@dhruvdhody.com>
Date: Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 6:08 AM
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Subject: WG Adoption of draft-fizgeer-pce-pcep-bfd-parameters-03

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Hi WG,

This email begins the WG adoption poll for 
draft-fizgeer-pce-pcep-bfd-parameters-03

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fizgeer-pce-pcep-bfd-parameters/

Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons - Why / 
Why not? What needs to be fixed before or after adoption? Are you willing to 
work on this draft? Review comments should be posted to the list.

Please respond by Monday 20th Jan 2025.

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Thanks!
Dhruv & Julien
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