Yep I agree with most of that and most of the AV Receivers these days have very nice headphone amps that come part of the parcel.
When I can I’m going to the Addicted To Audio store to listen again to these cans as well as the Senheiser cans used as a comparison. > On 27 Oct 2015, at 1:14 PM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote: > > The volume issue and the less than super punchy bass are why a little > headphone amp is a nice thing, unless you have a good stereo pre-amp in > your home system. Theese phones are still nice on portable devices, but > way nicer with the addition of that headphone amp. And their size and > long cable do make for a less than super convenient portable > experience. But the spacious sound stage really has to be heard to be > believed, especially with a good amp. > > Mary > > ********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.