hi,
Well I'm just happy there is more than one compeditor in the game.
It's always for the bennefit of the consumer.
The speaker in Victor Stream 2is less then optimal, but I love the physical
keys, and so on.
We can't win everytime.
Best regards
Brian
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From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 5:21 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Different Roads For Humanware and Hims Inc
A couple of things here.
I got a VR Stream - First Generation - in 2009, 5 years ago.
At the time I was warned about the VR Streams dreadful speaker but - given
the size and not knowing any better - I defended the VR Streams speaker,
after all it seemed its better to have a speaker than not have one as my
previous player - Bookport - didn't have one.
So 2009 rolled on and we came to December 9 when I took delivery of an
iPhone 3GS and this proved to be an eye opener.
Not only did the speaker of this device sound ten times as good, the device
had 100 times the functionality of the VR Stream as I was soon to discover.
Now yes, the VR Stream is a Daisy/Audio player but the iPhone did all that
soon and it wasn't long before I started using the iPhone to play Daisy
Books and so forth with, not only that I had the benefits - even then - of
Bluetooth and Wi-Fi technology so I could stream my material and even listen
to Internet Radio stations in much the same way as those who use the current
generation of the VR Stream do so really, the VR Stream is offering
absolutely nothing that we don't already have if we choose to look around.
On the other hand, Hims Inc are breaking new ground with their new offering
and we find - yet again - that Human Beware are on the catchup roundabout
and still trying to tell us all in their marketing stuff that they know the
market for the visually impaired? What they actually mean is that they know
their own loyal market.
On 7 Jun 2014, at 1:04 am, Adrien Collins <adriencollins22...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Dane
Yes I see where you are coming from, I don't have much use
for bluetooth regarding an mp3 or daisy player such as the
vr stream but to have built in bluetooth for earphones would
have been nice, I was one who requested it but I think I was
in a minority. I do use bluetooth on my mobile phones, for
pairing the phones etc and have unsuccessfully tried to link
a bluetooth keyboard but have ordered a different one so
don't give up that easily. I think humanware should give us
the choice, whether they will incorporate bluetooth into a
future product is anyone's guess, they will have to do
something good otherwise they will lose out to the market
again, when the vr stream was first released there was not
many similar players but now you have many more and some of
them are better in their own way but it depends on what you
require. I think they had to bring out the new stream mark 2
rather quickly to keep the market otherwise many people
would have gone away from humanware products in favour of
say I devices or similar gadgets which can do much more in
their own way. Again it is personal choice. What will come
after stream mark 2 has gone the whole way as it will
inevitably do in perhaps 5 or more years time, there will be
much different demand. It is good that stream mark 2 has the
wifi so there is several options as to what they can put
that to use with. So far it is just internet radio for me in
the uk and Europe and some book services in the states but
of course for me they are not available. They will add more
features in time.
Regards
Adrien
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 4:38 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Different Roads For Humanware and Hims Inc
Hi Adrien, I've changed the subject line to better suit the
discussion.
I didn't know that a survey was done so thanks for pointing
this out.
I can see how a lot of people wouldn't have rated Bluetooth
as being critical to them but really that does illustrate
more than anything to me just how Human Beware actually
work, that company doesn't really want to market to people
in the real world it seems.
For example, those of us who have been using mobile phones
over the last 10 years now take Bluetooth for granted thus
we buy the appropriate equipment such as speakers, hands
free kits, keyboards, headphones and the like to take full
advantage of it.
Hims Inc obviously want to market their products far and
wide to help those who need good accessibility live as
independent life as is possible and - wherever possible -
integrate into a full working environment and use - wherever
possible - all the tools that are available in the
mainstream.
I don't have any problems with the approach that Human
Beware takes but its not what I want, I want to move ahead
and make things as smooth and as uncomplicated as is
possible whereas - with the other approach Human Beware
takes - doing surveys and just making products specific to
survey needs for their blind clients - means some isolation
from the real world of changing technology, again its up to
the user what road he/she chooses to travel.
On 6 Jun 2014, at 11:54 pm, Adrien Collins
<adriencollins22...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dane
I don't know if you know, last year sometime humanware did
a
survey of what the users of the vr stream wanted, I think
there was more demand for wifi than bluetooth, I think
bluetooth would mean another hardware up-grade, I am not
sure. I think bluetooth would have been great but as we
can
use an adapter for listening to bluetooth earphones, it is
not much of a problem, not for me in any case.
Regards
Adrien
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