Yep exactly so c compremises have to be made, where you can test before you buy or take a good recommendation.

All radios have advantages and disadvantages, some have excellent audio but are very deaf, others are very sensitive but have a very narrow band thus are only really good for listening to speech whilst others such as the Sangean tabletop range, CC SW etc are quite a good compremise.

On 30/05/2011 12:47 AM, Joe Giovanelli wrote:
Hi, All,

There is often a price to pay for radio sensitivity.  Extreme sensitivity comes 
at the expense of dynamic range.

Better head room can sometimes be gained by higher voltage on the first RF 
stage.  Better FETS also improve the dynamic range.

Joe G, W 2 PVY

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From: Steve Jacobson<steve.jacob...@visi.com>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:39:20
Subject: Re: CC EP radio was Re: Looking for a table radio


Dane and Rich,

Thank you for your advice.  Dane, if I came across as though I was questioning 
the overload of the single-conversion unit, please know that was not my
intention.  I was just trying to explain why I was surprised that was the case. 
 If that wasn't clear, I apologize.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 29 May 2011 21:57:45 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Yep, there are some really good radios around but the trouble is its always 
difficult to find a good one, you not only want something which is good and
sensitive but something which is selective.

For example the CC Observer radio is extremely sensitive but not very selective 
so if you're trying to receive a weak station beside a strong one then you
may have trouble with the strong station leaking over the weaker one making it 
inaudible.

As I said earlier you do get what you pay for often and the sangean sets are a 
case in point, I spoke about the wooden cabinet tabletop radios that
company makes, they actually build or built radios for CCrane, I think they 
built the CCrane, CC+ and CC II.

You spoke of battery life? That's one very good point about the CC EP, it will 
run for 350 hours on a set of 4 d size batteries, not bad at all!

On 29/05/2011, at 9:50 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:
thx^^;". A very good pocket radio is the Sony ICF-S10MK2 Pocket AM/FM Radio, 
Silver, which is sold by Amazon for only $10.  I have used it for years and it
is surprisingly sensitive with decent selectivity.  It also seems to run 
forever on the two AA batteries.
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thx^^;". On 5/29/2011 2:02 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote:
Dane,

I just wouldn't expect this to be a problem with a double-tuned loop.  It has 
been pretty common for medium wave radios to only have single
conversion
even when the short wave bands have double conversion.  If the loop tunes too 
broadly, a strong medium wave station can theoretically overload
even
the front end of a dual conversion radio.  Some of the older Sony's suffered 
from this, for example.  Therefore, I'm disappointed to here this is the
case.
Does anyone have recommendations for a sensitive AM and FM pocket radio?  I've 
been really frustrated with how pocket radios seem to overload
badly
on FM in high-level input areas.  I have a Grundig Yachtboy which I like, but 
it is a little bigger than I want to carry around and I just don't listen to
shortwave much any more.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 29 May 2011 02:41:07 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!
Since the CC EP radio got a mention in a roundabout way I'd like to say a few 
words regard this set.
Yep, its very sensitive no doubt about that but it does have some problems and 
this is understandable given the price, after all $70.00 is a very small
price to pay for a radio.

If you're living near a very strong medium wave transmitter as I do then it may 
be that your CC EP won't perform at its best due to interference from
that
transmitter, this I'm told is due to the "Single Conversion" circuitry used in 
the CC EP.

To Illustrate the point, suppose you're tuning through the medium wave band, 
you think you're hearing signals from far away when actually you're
hearing
what appear to be ghosts or shadows of the local high powered transmitter 
instead.

The Solution? Well there are several you can try, the most obvious is to spend 
say $50.00 more and purchase the CC SW which has a Dual
Conversion
circuit and you notice the difference straight away.  The CC SW is not perhaps 
exactly as sensitive as the CC EP but its far more selective for one
thing
and you certainly don't get the ghosting or shadowing I spoke about for 
another, I've several CC Radios and I reckon the CC SW would have to be
the
best CC Radio set I own.

I reviewed the CCSW on Blind Cool Tech a little while ago so you'll find the 
review there.
Blind Cool Tech also has a review of the CC EP from last year and I've just 
done a review of the CC II radio which is more sensitive than the CC EP
however it suffers from the same problems due to its single conversion 
receiving circuit, this review is still awaiting approval to the blind cool 
tech site.


On 02/01/2000, at 5:09 AM, tim cumings wrote:
Don I'd recommend the cc radio e p from c crane. It's a portable am/fm analog
radio that costs about $70. It has very nice tone and sensitivity and works 
well on both bands. On
Fri, 27 May 2011 20:19:00 com0700, Donald L. Roberts wrote:


I am looking to find an A M F M table radio which doesn't cost much more
than $100 U.S.  The primary considerations are sensitivity, selectivity,
image rejection, and of course sound quality.  Although I don't really
care whether it is PLL or analog, I doubt that much analog stuff is
being manufactured.  Obviously, for a bit more than $100, I am not going
to find a great radio.  But please tell me what gives the best bang for
the buck.

Incidentally, the unit does not need to play COULDs or have audio inputs.

Thanks for ideas.

Don Roberts

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