This is not my understanding of how USB drives work. I tried to find a good reference to point to but I couldn't find one because I got so many hits for utilities to create the equivalent of a recycle bin on a USB drive. I'm pretty confident that Windows doesn't place a recycle bin on your USB drive or your Zen Stone. I know I've never seen one on any of my USB drives, and I've never mysteriously lost space on a USB drive to a hidden recycle bin. I've also never had the problem where the Zen Stone would play files that I had deleted.

Have you tried a hard reset on your Zen Stone, i.e. using a pin to press the pin hole reset button? There may be a problem with your running firmware. It looks like someone deleted the beginning of the thread below, but I think I heard you say that reformatting the Zen Stone temporarily fixes the problem. If resetting the Zen Stone doesn't take care of it, you might try updating the FW on the Zen Stone. I haven't done this in a while, but I think there are several ways to do this, i.e. use Creative Media Lite or download a FW updating executable.

I'm also no filesystems expert, but I would think removing you're Zen Stone without using the safely remove option could result in the corruption of your Zen Stone's filesystem. I would think that once your filesystem was corrupted, "results would be unpredictable" as they say, and you could definitely be seeing the symptoms of such a corruption.

Good luck!




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On 2/17/2010 1:22 PM, Laz Mesa wrote:
Hi Vicki,

When you delete files from the player, use the shift plus delete key
combination instead of just pressing the delete key.  If you just use
the delete key, it sends it to a recycle bin on your player, which
can't be seen when you look for it, and you'll have all those deleted
files taking up storage space.  Thank you Bill Gates!

Whether you safely remove the player or not has nothing to do with
this problem.  Not safely removing your player causes some other more
serious problems though.

You may have to reformat your player to get rid of the current
*deleted* files, but it shouldn't be a problem anymore if you delete
them as described above.

Regards,

Laz

I always use the safely remove hardware feature. I've had it for almost two
years, and this just started in the last couple of months.
My heart is in his hands. His heart is in my soul.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Grady"<tfgra...@verizon.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: ZenStone Question


If you are using a windows computer are you using the safely remove hardware
option before disconnecting the Zenstone?  If you are using a mac are you
ejecting the Zenstone before disconnecting it?  In either case that's one
reason that could be happening.
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