If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put
Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question

I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the
Ozone 
only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but
not 
the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like
Gary 
said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks
version 
for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am,
I 
would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but
alas, 
Verizon enables me to get reception.

Sincerely,

Lauren
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Talks question


> Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working 
> version?
> What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for
the
> Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.
>
> Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows 
> Mobile
> and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian
and
> now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when 
> talking
> about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows 
> Mobile
> version.
>
> I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
anything
> selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think
that's
> the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I 
> suspect
> the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon
or
> AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version
of
> the screen reader is being sold.
>
> --
> Christopher
> chalt...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Talks question
>
> Hi Lauren,
>
> I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work
for
> most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
probably
> why they get away with selling it for the price they do.
>
> Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones,
but 
> it
> does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.
>
> You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the
> Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
afford
> it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase
Mobile
> Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to
other
> Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get
another
> phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
> 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.
>
> Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase,
> which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
> purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.
They 
> do
> charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if
you
> can't get the money at once.
>
> You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
however,
> need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
> You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is
not
> difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
> source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need
it.
>
> Any other questions are welcomed.
>
> Sincerely,
> Tim Martin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Talks question
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but
I
> can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
> choose
> it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing
menus,
> email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great
for
> me!
>
> The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do
everything
> and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying
a
> Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access
what 
> I
> need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty 
> because
> of my disability.
>
> Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lauren
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" <tim.mar...@state.nm.us>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
> Subject: RE: Talks question
>
>
>> Good morning List,
>>
>> Here is the promised information.
>>
>> A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was
> fully
>> accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and
contained
>> the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
>> program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
>> Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of
> course
>> I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to
all
>> it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read
and
>> compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an
> alarm
>> or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
>> happen.
>>
>> I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a
> few
>> issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the
> Talks
>> program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of
> all
>> the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types
> of
>> phones and different speech programs.  Through my searching, I
>> discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
>> was not the fully functioning version of the program.
>>
>> I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
>> hearing of a program called:  Mobile Speaks.  This program can be
used
>> on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's.  It
> works
>> with several different service providers and costs about $300.00.  I
> was
>> able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
>> Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to
>> offer.  This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a
>> different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from
>> Verizon.  I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new
>> phone.
>>
>> Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile
>> Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many
>> smart phones and with as many carriers.
>>
>> I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from
> Verizon
>> that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a
> Data
>> package with your current plan.  A Data package gives you access to
> the
>> Internet and E-mail from your phone.  This is not meant for everyone,
>> but if you think there might be a reason for this function, then a
>> Windows Mobile device running a speech program might be what you
need.
>>
>> If anyone has any questions, they can keep the thread going on this
> list
>> or contact me off list at:
>>
>> tim.mar...@state.nm.us
>>
>> Here is the link to where you can get a trial of the Mobile Speaks
>> software.
>>
>> http://www.codefactory.es
>>
>> To get a good detailed tutorial on installing and using this program,
>> also a place to purchase once you've used the trial of Mobile Speaks:
>>
>> http://www.handytech.us/demos.html
>>
>> Hope all this helps.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Tim Martin
>>
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