Well, from reading http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/voiceover.html, it sounds like this works the same as the iPod Nano , so there isn't a TTS running on the Shuffle. The TTS is run on your PC and then iTunes copies audio clips over to the Shuffle. Since it's the same technology used on the Nano, you wonder how they can claim "VoiceOver is the exciting new feature that makes iPod shuffle the first music player that talks to you." Don't forget, Rockbox has also been using this same technique for years.

Although Apple's work on making their products accessible should be praised and encouraged, I'm not smitten with them yet. One wonders why it took Apple so long to add speech to their iPod's, why the whole line doesn't have this feature and why they didn't include accessibility in the iPhone from the get go.

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Woo, man, I love apple now. Too bad there 80 gb players still don't have tts...


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Ok, well I've just checked this out and Apple will supply an adapter for those who wish to use other headphones as they should, best get some facts in before the nasty pasty's try to spread a few false rumours around <smile>.


On 13/03/2009, at 1:54 PM, Constantine wrote:

Yeah, not exactly a big selling point. What if you lose them. I bet it costs like 30 bucks just to replace those - sort of like macbooks - totally overpriced. Mind you, its good quality.


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I got the picture that most of the controls are on the ear buds that come with this device. If so, that's a show stopper right there and right now, especially for some of us who can't wear ear buds or prefer the old fashioned type head sets.

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Yep, well could this be the beginning of Daisy books and son on found on an Ipod?


On 12/03/2009, at 8:01 AM, Gary King wrote:

It sounds like a nice little player. It wasn't made clear in the article how the text -to-speech is implemented though, whether it is built-in or transferred.

I also followed the link to the press release and found a link to some interesting facts about lithium-polymer batteries, charging cycles, running time and lifespan.

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Hi!

Well for those who are thinking of buying a new music player then this may be worth the look, its a new Ipod shuffle with "Text-To- Speech" capabilities.

http://www.lioncourt.com/


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