Bruce, ease of use with respect to manipulating markers how one moves around 
within the audio file, the speed with which deletions, cuts and pastes take 
place, 
good quality noise reduction, non destructive editing and so on. goldwave is 
pretty darn good for most things for the average guy except for the noise 
reduction. I think it's best feature is the cross fading. goldwave will 
certainly 
get the job done most of the time. I believe a good program should stand on 
it's 
own merit, less dependent on third party applications to make it work better. 
you 
shouldn't have to spend more money on a piece of software like goldwave to 
bolster 
it. that to me is what I like in a professional audio production software we'll 
make a soundforge lover out of you yet.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>I know I'm going to regret this, but what makes an editor a professional
> one in your personal opinion?
>
> Bruce
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 04:19:01 -0500, "Gary G Schindler"
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>> I wouldn't push goldwave as a professional audio editor, powerful yes,
>> professional no. your example of Amadeus Pro is an excellent example of
>> what can
>> be done at an affordable price.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
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>> That's been my point all along, you get what you pay for. Yes ok,
>> Amadeus Pro at $40.00 has some really excellent noise reduction stuff
>> which is comparible to the competition but even supposing Amadeus Pro
>> didn't have these excellent noise removal tools? Well in my view, the
>> software would still be an absolute bargain, GoldWave and Amadeus Pro
>> are advertised as "audio editors" and where does it say anywhere that
>> Noise reduction has to be part of an audio editor?
>> As I and others have said before, the great thing about Goldwave,
>> Amadeus Pro, Sound Forge, Total Recorder, Sonar and others is that you
>> can use other plug-ins with the product so if you don't like what
>> Goldwave has to offer in the form of Noise Reduction, Graphic EQ or
>> whatever then by all means! by a third party plug-in to solve the
>> problem and (strange as it may seem) if you buy Goldwave then you
>> certainly are given a lot of change to purchase other plug-ins <smile>.
>> I myself use a lot of Third Party plug-ins, I used them with Sound
>> Gorge but now I'll most likely be using them with Goldwave as I found
>> them to be far more accessible with a screen reader, I detailed them
>> before some time ago on this list, a whole heap of equalisers,
>> filters, flangers, echo units, compressors and the like which (once
>> again) are absolutely compatible with anything which will handle direx
>> plug-ins.
>>
>> On 03/03/2008, at 12:35 PM, constantine (on laptop) wrote:
>>
>> > So seriously, I'm finding this a bit insulting. You expect gold
>> > wave, priced
>> > at 29 bucks, to do what sound forge does huh? Well, sound forge is
>> > about 400
>> > plus, and honestly, only a millionare could afford it. Not to
>> > mention, if
>> > you don't like gw's noise reduction features, use audacity, as
>> > someone on
>> > here already stated, its features in terms of noise reduction are
>> > better
>> > than gw.
>> >
>> >
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>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:10 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah ok but Sound Forge (unless I'm wrong these days) is ten times the
>> > price is it not? Let's face it, you "get what you pay for" in some
>> > cases and if you really wanted a better Noise Reduction Plug-in
>> > (assuming that the one from Goldwave is as bad as you say it is) then
>> > it was my understanding that you could buy the Sound Forge Noise
>> > Reduction system as a separate plug-in?
>> >
>> > On 03/03/2008, at 5:05 AM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>> >
>> >> I expect a noise reduction package to work better than it does, and
>> >> a soundforge
>> >> like editing capability.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:02 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor
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>> >>
>> >> I've not played with that part yet but really, for $40.00? What do
>> >> you
>> >> expect, its a steal.
>> >>
>> >> On 02/03/2008, at 8:37 PM, Gary G Schindler wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
>> >>> reduction isn't very
>> >>> good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
>> >>> like the Diamond
>> >>> Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
>> >>> blind person was
>> >>> and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
>> >>> some kind of
>> >>> noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
>> >>> I am going to
>> >>> shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
>> >>> things too, but
>> >>> seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
>> >>> thought it could be
>> >>> a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
>> >>> Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor
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>> >>>
>> >>> Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot
>> >>> of
>> >>> ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than
>> >>> Sound
>> >>> Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
>> >>> manual is very well done and easy to get around.
>> >>> I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
>> >>> purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
>> >>> Goldwave INC won't take paypal <damn!> but if its a fair price then
>> >>> I'll save to purchase this.
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