Well two things I figured out with Winamp:  I figured out that everything 
worked much better, and I didn't have trouble with other things when I 
uninstalled that damn Winamp Toolbar, and never put it back in, and just as 
well, I didn't add that other Winamp thing they asked me to install.  They 
both were buggers, as far as I was concerned.  Jeez!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:25 AM
Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC


> They do try to slam you with a tool bar but I can't remember which one. 
> It
> seems to be the latest fad in the land of media players.  Real 11 just 
> tried
> to get me to take fire Fox and the Google tool bar. they even set fire Fox
> as the default browser and I didn't know for a while even after I'd
> uninstalled it.  You'd have thought the configuration would have reverted 
> to
> I.E. when I removed fire fox, but know, smile.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Gary Wood
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:11 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>
> It seems like I got a toolbar with this latest version of Winamp that I 
> had
> to uninstall.  It seemed to mess some things up for me.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:46 PM
> Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>
>
>> Yes, I actually agree with you, I've found Winamp to be a consistent
>> performer until version 5.5 for some reason.
>> Of course (Windows being what it is) there may be some sort of
>> conflict somewhere on my system which Winamp involves itself in.
>> I just think quite frankly that Winamp is becoming one of those pieces
>> of software providing features to try and suit everyone, in other
>> words its becoming big and bloated, a bit like Sound Forge has become
>> in many ways but again that's just my view.
>> Yeah, VLC looks as though it was born and bred to run on a network
>> doesn't it, perhaps you should try adjusting some of the many tweeks
>> and preferences Chris if you're having trouble playing some streams, I
>> haven't gone into this area thoroughly as yet, I haven't had the need
>> to but (if my experience is anything to go by wiusing the Mac version
>> of VLC) you'll be able to fix any problems which arise without too
>> much trouble.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 4:35 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>
>> I also have VLC Media player and it's a very interesting little
>> program. It plays some file types better than others on my system and
>> if you have your computers on a network it works great.   Now, this
>> Winamp issue...I've been using Windows in all its versions for 10
>> years, 95, 98 SE, XP and I'm sure at some point, i'll even give into
>> Vista.  But in all that time, I can say with absolute certainty that
>> Winamp has never caused my computer to crash, in other words just
>> running Winamp never made my computer crash.  I would suspect that in
>> Dane's case, there are other issues with the computer he is using to
>> run Windows. It just saddens me that we have people trashing each
>> other's choices of an operating system, we all need to remember that
>> everyone's needs are different and while some prefer windows, others
>> prefer Apple Macks. Let's quit all the mean little jabs here.
>> You don't see me sitting there calling  the apple mack a trashbox, so
>> I would expect that people would respect my choice even though they
>> may disagree with it.  Come on now.
>>
>>
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>>  At 10:16 AM 11/20/2007, you wrote:
>>>Really? Well VLC actually (let the truth be told) is Open source and
>>>is a cross platform media player.
>>>We have a publication in our newspaper The Age every Thursday and VLC
>>>has been getting rave reviews for the PC in it for quite some time,
>>>had I not needed to come back to Trashbox PC then I wouldn't have
>>>bothered investigating.
>>>Anyhow, for those who want to try something tha's nice and small and
>>>runs very nicely then have a look.
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
>>>Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 2:53 AM
>>>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>>
>>>If Winamp is a little to complicated for you I might suggest that you
>>>keep using your proprietary Mac crap!
>>>
>>>Thank you for contributing to my block senders list!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:45 AM
>>>Subject: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>>
>>>
>>>Ok folks, I tried out the latest (and greatest?) version of Winamp and
>>>I
>> had
>>>a few problems running it on the trashbox (otherwise known as the
>>>Windows
>>>PC) <smile> For some reason (I don't know why) Winamp it seems, was
>>>responsible for the Trashbox crashing every few minutes.
>>>
>>>Naturally this behavior to anyone (particularly to a Mac user where
>>>crashes are few and far between) <lol> is totally unacceptable so back
>>>onto the machine went VLC media Player, it was listening to both that
>>>I make the following observations.
>>>
>>>Firstly, VLC does a far better job ad decoding media such as MP3 etc,
>>>you can hear the differences quite distinctly.
>>>
>>>Controls are similar to those presented in Winamp and in a lot of
>>>ways, VLC is easier to use with a screen reader, not as cluttered as
>>>Winamp seems to be.
>>>
>>>I've been using VLC on the Mac for ages but haven't had too much
>>>experience with it on the PC, the command set is slightly different
>>>but that's
>> probably
>>>due mainly to differences in the keyboard layout between Mac and
>>>Trashbox Windows PC. For example, you go to previous and next tracks
>>>in VLC under
>> the
>>>Mac using command-left and command-right arrow respectively, on the PC
>>>version you use P and N on the keyboard
>>>
>>>If anyone would like to give this excellent little media player a try
>>>then use your friend Google and look for "vlc", you'll have no trouble
>>>finding it. Takes up a lot less space than Winamp does plus it will
>>>play just about everything you can throw at it, including Cue and
>>>Wave/FLAC pairs.
>>>
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