Rollback is one word, I found it on Google so I'll look again and post  
the url if someone hasn't already done this before me.
The discussion of Rollback is probably off-topic for this list so if  
anyone has any questions about how the software works etc then email  
me privately or find the web site.

On 26/11/2007, at 5:31 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Dane,
> Where do you look for this role back program?
>  John.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:17 AM
> Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>
>
>> Exactly, that's why I suggested that list members have something like
>> Rollback on their computer, that way then can rollback to the point  
>> before
>> the installation was started, Windows System Restore doesn't always  
>> work
>> for
>> this.
>> Another point to ponder, when removing software through the add/ 
>> remove
>> feature of Windows, unfortunately not all software is equal thus  
>> not all
>> software will be removed equally. For example some applications leave
>> great
>> chunks of that application in the registry and on other parts of the
>> computer, this can be often hard to track down.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
>> Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2007 11:45 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>
>> High Chris,
>> I agree with you.
>> I went through that too.
>> So now when I download a media player of any kind, I always choose  
>> custom
>> install.
>> However, all list members if you are reading this, please pay close
>> attention.
>> Real Media doesn't give you that option.
>> Just as you get it, that's how you have to install it.
>> John.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:56 PM
>> Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>
>>
>>> Hi.  This is why it's really, really important to make sure that you
>>> don't just click yes like a mad man when you're going through these
>>> installs. I've had like 5 other people on the list I run have  
>>> similar
>>> issues, and I can't imagine how everyone misses these checkboxes to
>>> install the Winamp remote, and the Winamp toolbar for Internet  
>>> explorer.
>>>
>>> . Now, because I chose the custom install instead of the standard
>>> one, that's probably why the check boxes showed up.  But anymore  
>>> when
>>> it comes to installing a media player, and yes sadly Winamp nowadays
>>> even, it's really important to always choose the custom
>>> install.  That way you know *exactly* what's happening during the
>>> instalation and can avoid any other weird software being installed
>>> that you don't want on your machine.  Believe me, I went through  
>>> this
>>> too, and my atempt isn't to chide or look down on anyone else for  
>>> not
>>> knowing, it's quite the opposite. I want to help folks to not make
>>> the same mistakes I made and had to fix later.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> At 04:25 AM 11/22/2007, you wrote:
>>>> They do try to slam you with a tool bar but I can't remember  
>>>> which one.
>>>> It
>>>> seems to be the latest fad in the land of media players.  Real 11  
>>>> just
>>>> tried
>>>> to get me to take fire Fox and the Google tool bar. they even set  
>>>> fire
>>>> Fox
>>>> as the default browser and I didn't know for a while even after I'd
>>>> uninstalled it.  You'd have thought the configuration would have  
>>>> reverted
>>>> to
>>>> I.E. when I removed fire fox, but know, smile.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> On Behalf Of Gary Wood
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:11 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>>>
>>>> It seems like I got a toolbar with this latest version of Winamp  
>>>> that I
>>>> had
>>>> to uninstall.  It seemed to mess some things up for me.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:46 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I actually agree with you, I've found Winamp to be a  
>>>>> consistent
>>>>> performer until version 5.5 for some reason.
>>>>> Of course (Windows being what it is) there may be some sort of
>>>>> conflict somewhere on my system which Winamp involves itself in.
>>>>> I just think quite frankly that Winamp is becoming one of those  
>>>>> pieces
>>>>> of software providing features to try and suit everyone, in other
>>>>> words its becoming big and bloated, a bit like Sound Forge has  
>>>>> become
>>>>> in many ways but again that's just my view.
>>>>> Yeah, VLC looks as though it was born and bred to run on a network
>>>>> doesn't it, perhaps you should try adjusting some of the many  
>>>>> tweeks
>>>>> and preferences Chris if you're having trouble playing some  
>>>>> streams, I
>>>>> haven't gone into this area thoroughly as yet, I haven't had the  
>>>>> need
>>>>> to but (if my experience is anything to go by wiusing the Mac  
>>>>> version
>>>>> of VLC) you'll be able to fix any problems which arise without too
>>>>> much trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 4:35 AM
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>>>>
>>>>> I also have VLC Media player and it's a very interesting little
>>>>> program. It plays some file types better than others on my  
>>>>> system and
>>>>> if you have your computers on a network it works great.   Now,  
>>>>> this
>>>>> Winamp issue...I've been using Windows in all its versions for 10
>>>>> years, 95, 98 SE, XP and I'm sure at some point, i'll even give  
>>>>> into
>>>>> Vista.  But in all that time, I can say with absolute certainty  
>>>>> that
>>>>> Winamp has never caused my computer to crash, in other words just
>>>>> running Winamp never made my computer crash.  I would suspect  
>>>>> that in
>>>>> Dane's case, there are other issues with the computer he is  
>>>>> using to
>>>>> run Windows. It just saddens me that we have people trashing each
>>>>> other's choices of an operating system, we all need to remember  
>>>>> that
>>>>> everyone's needs are different and while some prefer windows,  
>>>>> others
>>>>> prefer Apple Macks. Let's quit all the mean little jabs here.
>>>>> You don't see me sitting there calling  the apple mack a  
>>>>> trashbox, so
>>>>> I would expect that people would respect my choice even though  
>>>>> they
>>>>> may disagree with it.  Come on now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 10:16 AM 11/20/2007, you wrote:
>>>>>> Really? Well VLC actually (let the truth be told) is Open  
>>>>>> source and
>>>>>> is a cross platform media player.
>>>>>> We have a publication in our newspaper The Age every Thursday  
>>>>>> and VLC
>>>>>> has been getting rave reviews for the PC in it for quite some  
>>>>>> time,
>>>>>> had I not needed to come back to Trashbox PC then I wouldn't have
>>>>>> bothered investigating.
>>>>>> Anyhow, for those who want to try something tha's nice and  
>>>>>> small and
>>>>>> runs very nicely then have a look.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 2:53 AM
>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Winamp is a little to complicated for you I might suggest  
>>>>>> that you
>>>>>> keep using your proprietary Mac crap!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for contributing to my block senders list!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:45 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok folks, I tried out the latest (and greatest?) version of  
>>>>>> Winamp and
>>>>>> I
>>>>> had
>>>>>> a few problems running it on the trashbox (otherwise known as the
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> PC) <smile> For some reason (I don't know why) Winamp it seems,  
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> responsible for the Trashbox crashing every few minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Naturally this behavior to anyone (particularly to a Mac user  
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> crashes are few and far between) <lol> is totally unacceptable  
>>>>>> so back
>>>>>> onto the machine went VLC media Player, it was listening to  
>>>>>> both that
>>>>>> I make the following observations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Firstly, VLC does a far better job ad decoding media such as  
>>>>>> MP3 etc,
>>>>>> you can hear the differences quite distinctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Controls are similar to those presented in Winamp and in a lot of
>>>>>> ways, VLC is easier to use with a screen reader, not as  
>>>>>> cluttered as
>>>>>> Winamp seems to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been using VLC on the Mac for ages but haven't had too much
>>>>>> experience with it on the PC, the command set is slightly  
>>>>>> different
>>>>>> but that's
>>>>> probably
>>>>>> due mainly to differences in the keyboard layout between Mac and
>>>>>> Trashbox Windows PC. For example, you go to previous and next  
>>>>>> tracks
>>>>>> in VLC under
>>>>> the
>>>>>> Mac using command-left and command-right arrow respectively, on  
>>>>>> the PC
>>>>>> version you use P and N on the keyboard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone would like to give this excellent little media player  
>>>>>> a try
>>>>>> then use your friend Google and look for "vlc", you'll have no  
>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>> finding it. Takes up a lot less space than Winamp does plus it  
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> play just about everything you can throw at it, including Cue and
>>>>>> Wave/FLAC pairs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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