High Dane, Where do you look for this role back program? John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
> Exactly, that's why I suggested that list members have something like > Rollback on their computer, that way then can rollback to the point before > the installation was started, Windows System Restore doesn't always work > for > this. > Another point to ponder, when removing software through the add/remove > feature of Windows, unfortunately not all software is equal thus not all > software will be removed equally. For example some applications leave > great > chunks of that application in the registry and on other parts of the > computer, this can be often hard to track down. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P > Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2007 11:45 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC > > High Chris, > I agree with you. > I went through that too. > So now when I download a media player of any kind, I always choose custom > install. > However, all list members if you are reading this, please pay close > attention. > Real Media doesn't give you that option. > Just as you get it, that's how you have to install it. > John. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:56 PM > Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC > > >> Hi. This is why it's really, really important to make sure that you >> don't just click yes like a mad man when you're going through these >> installs. I've had like 5 other people on the list I run have similar >> issues, and I can't imagine how everyone misses these checkboxes to >> install the Winamp remote, and the Winamp toolbar for Internet explorer. >> >> . Now, because I chose the custom install instead of the standard >> one, that's probably why the check boxes showed up. But anymore when >> it comes to installing a media player, and yes sadly Winamp nowadays >> even, it's really important to always choose the custom >> install. That way you know *exactly* what's happening during the >> instalation and can avoid any other weird software being installed >> that you don't want on your machine. Believe me, I went through this >> too, and my atempt isn't to chide or look down on anyone else for not >> knowing, it's quite the opposite. I want to help folks to not make >> the same mistakes I made and had to fix later. >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> At 04:25 AM 11/22/2007, you wrote: >>>They do try to slam you with a tool bar but I can't remember which one. >>>It >>>seems to be the latest fad in the land of media players. Real 11 just >>>tried >>>to get me to take fire Fox and the Google tool bar. they even set fire >>>Fox >>>as the default browser and I didn't know for a while even after I'd >>>uninstalled it. You'd have thought the configuration would have reverted >>>to >>>I.E. when I removed fire fox, but know, smile. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>On Behalf Of Gary Wood >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:11 PM >>>To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC >>> >>>It seems like I got a toolbar with this latest version of Winamp that I >>>had >>>to uninstall. It seemed to mess some things up for me. >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:46 PM >>>Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC >>> >>> >>> > Yes, I actually agree with you, I've found Winamp to be a consistent >>> > performer until version 5.5 for some reason. >>> > Of course (Windows being what it is) there may be some sort of >>> > conflict somewhere on my system which Winamp involves itself in. >>> > I just think quite frankly that Winamp is becoming one of those pieces >>> > of software providing features to try and suit everyone, in other >>> > words its becoming big and bloated, a bit like Sound Forge has become >>> > in many ways but again that's just my view. >>> > Yeah, VLC looks as though it was born and bred to run on a network >>> > doesn't it, perhaps you should try adjusting some of the many tweeks >>> > and preferences Chris if you're having trouble playing some streams, I >>> > haven't gone into this area thoroughly as yet, I haven't had the need >>> > to but (if my experience is anything to go by wiusing the Mac version >>> > of VLC) you'll be able to fix any problems which arise without too >>> > much trouble. >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad >>> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 4:35 AM >>> > To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> > Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC >>> > >>> > I also have VLC Media player and it's a very interesting little >>> > program. It plays some file types better than others on my system and >>> > if you have your computers on a network it works great. Now, this >>> > Winamp issue...I've been using Windows in all its versions for 10 >>> > years, 95, 98 SE, XP and I'm sure at some point, i'll even give into >>> > Vista. But in all that time, I can say with absolute certainty that >>> > Winamp has never caused my computer to crash, in other words just >>> > running Winamp never made my computer crash. I would suspect that in >>> > Dane's case, there are other issues with the computer he is using to >>> > run Windows. It just saddens me that we have people trashing each >>> > other's choices of an operating system, we all need to remember that >>> > everyone's needs are different and while some prefer windows, others >>> > prefer Apple Macks. Let's quit all the mean little jabs here. >>> > You don't see me sitting there calling the apple mack a trashbox, so >>> > I would expect that people would respect my choice even though they >>> > may disagree with it. Come on now. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > At 10:16 AM 11/20/2007, you wrote: >>> >>Really? Well VLC actually (let the truth be told) is Open source and >>> >>is a cross platform media player. >>> >>We have a publication in our newspaper The Age every Thursday and VLC >>> >>has been getting rave reviews for the PC in it for quite some time, >>> >>had I not needed to come back to Trashbox PC then I wouldn't have >>> >>bothered investigating. >>> >>Anyhow, for those who want to try something tha's nice and small and >>> >>runs very nicely then have a look. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>-----Original Message----- >>> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>On Behalf Of Keith Gillard >>> >>Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 2:53 AM >>> >>To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> >>Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC >>> >> >>> >>If Winamp is a little to complicated for you I might suggest that you >>> >>keep using your proprietary Mac crap! >>> >> >>> >>Thank you for contributing to my block senders list! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> >>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:45 AM >>> >>Subject: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>Ok folks, I tried out the latest (and greatest?) version of Winamp and >>> >>I >>> > had >>> >>a few problems running it on the trashbox (otherwise known as the >>> >>Windows >>> >>PC) <smile> For some reason (I don't know why) Winamp it seems, was >>> >>responsible for the Trashbox crashing every few minutes. >>> >> >>> >>Naturally this behavior to anyone (particularly to a Mac user where >>> >>crashes are few and far between) <lol> is totally unacceptable so back >>> >>onto the machine went VLC media Player, it was listening to both that >>> >>I make the following observations. >>> >> >>> >>Firstly, VLC does a far better job ad decoding media such as MP3 etc, >>> >>you can hear the differences quite distinctly. >>> >> >>> >>Controls are similar to those presented in Winamp and in a lot of >>> >>ways, VLC is easier to use with a screen reader, not as cluttered as >>> >>Winamp seems to be. >>> >> >>> >>I've been using VLC on the Mac for ages but haven't had too much >>> >>experience with it on the PC, the command set is slightly different >>> >>but that's >>> > probably >>> >>due mainly to differences in the keyboard layout between Mac and >>> >>Trashbox Windows PC. For example, you go to previous and next tracks >>> >>in VLC under >>> > the >>> >>Mac using command-left and command-right arrow respectively, on the PC >>> >>version you use P and N on the keyboard >>> >> >>> >>If anyone would like to give this excellent little media player a try >>> >>then use your friend Google and look for "vlc", you'll have no trouble >>> >>finding it. Takes up a lot less space than Winamp does plus it will >>> >>play just about everything you can throw at it, including Cue and >>> >>Wave/FLAC pairs. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> >>http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >> >>> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> >>http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >> >>> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> >>http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >> >>> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>__________ NOD32 2672 (20071120) Information __________ >>> >> >>> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>> >>http://www.eset.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> > http://www.pc-audio.org >>> > >>> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> > http://www.pc-audio.org >>> > >>> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>>__________ NOD32 2677 (20071122) Information __________ >>> >>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: >> 11/24/2007 5:58 PM >> > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1151 - Release Date: > 11/25/2007 4:24 PM > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]