Gary quips:
I am Curious Keith, what kind of noise reduction systems are you familiar 
with
when it comes to recording on tape. DBX was one of the best noise reductions 
I
have ever used for recording. ARNS was another good type of noise reduction. 
you
couldn't beat DBX. I don't know how old you are, but in the seventies, 
everyone
coveted DBX.

What's your Point?  I'm well aware of Dolby and it's characteristics!  Noise 
reduction right?  I think you missed my point here so let mme try to define 
it so you will understand my comment as it pertains to the thread.  Here's 
what I wrote:

> Erroneous!
>
> You will always suffer from sound quality degradation every time you
> duplicate an analog source file.

What this means is that if you take the original analog source, in this case 
LP's as per the subject line, and record it on to another analog source, as 
you suggested, cassette tapes, then transfer it to your PC to Wav and/or 
then MP3, you will loose more sound quality then if you did the same 
excluding the cassette tape step and just recorded the LP directly to a 
digital  format.

I hope this clarify's things for you Gary...Keith



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital


I am Curious Keith, what kind of noise reduction systems are you familiar 
with
when it comes to recording on tape. DBX was one of the best noise reductions 
I
have ever used for recording. ARNS was another good type of noise reduction. 
you
couldn't beat DBX. I don't know how old you are, but in the seventies, 
everyone
coveted DBX.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital


> Hi you wrote:
> I guess you have never heard good tape. good high bios or chrome tapes 
> sound
> equal to the cd.
>
> Erroneous!
>
> You will always suffer from sound quality degradation every time you
> duplicate an analog source file...Keith
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>
>
> I guess you have never heard good tape. good high bios or chrome tapes 
> sound
> equal to the cd.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>
>
> But, tape sounds horrible and has relatively poor frequency response, at
> least as far as music goes.  Talking cassette tape, btw.  Of course
> personally recorded, out of print, or tapes of books are a different 
> story.
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Keith Gillard
>  To: PC audio discussion list.
>  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:32 PM
>  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>
>
>  Hi Don you wrote:
>  if you don't already have a preamp I would buy a mixer instead. It will
> have
>  turntable preamps in it plus you can do so much more with it. For example
>  you could record your tapes over to digital as well.
>
>  sounds good.  What kind of mixer do you have and how easy or blind
> friendly
>  is it?
>
>  Thanks...Keith
>  ?  I have the
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:56 PM
>  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>
>
>  if you don't already have a preamp I would buy a mixer instead. It will
> have
>  turntable preamps in it plus you can do so much more with it. For example
>  you could record your tapes over to digital as well.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:22 AM
>  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>
>
>  Hello Keith, go to http://www.tracertek.com and you will find a couple of
>  really
>  nice preamps you can use for hooking up the turntable to the computer.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:14 AM
>  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>
>
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Good info,
>  >
>  > Can you suggest a good little pre-amp that would work well with my JVC
>  > turn
>  > table?
>  >
>  > BTW:  How is Groove Mechanic for accessibility?
>  >
>  > Cheers...Keith
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: "John J. Jacques" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>  > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:42 AM
>  > Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi all, the easiest way to do this, is if you have a turntable that you
>  > can set up close to your computer!  You can either get an inexpensive
>  > pre-amp that will boost the low level of a magnetic phono cartridge and
>  > equalize it correctly and feed the output of that pre-amp to the line
>  > input of your sound card!  Then, all you need is a sound editing
> program,
>  > such as Gold Wave, or Groove Mechanic wich is designed for recording
>  > vinyl!  An alternative solution, if there is no way to get a turntable
> in
>  > the same area as the PC, is if you already have a fairly good quality
>  > stereo system, with a turntable and a cassette deck, you can first
> record
>  > the vinyl LP's on to a good quality cassette and then, plug a cassette
>  > deck into your PC's sound card and record that way!  Since I have my
>  > stereo system set up right here along with my computers, I just feed my
>  > main pc's second sound card into the tape monitor loop of my reciever,
> so
>  > I can record anything that I wish onto the hard drive!
>  >
>  > HTH:
>  > J. J.
>  > John Jacques
>  > Amateur Radio Station: KG7FA
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