Keith, I can't disagree with your clarification.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital


> Gary quips:
> I am Curious Keith, what kind of noise reduction systems are you familiar 
> with
> when it comes to recording on tape. DBX was one of the best noise reductions 
> I
> have ever used for recording. ARNS was another good type of noise reduction. 
> you
> couldn't beat DBX. I don't know how old you are, but in the seventies, 
> everyone
> coveted DBX.
> 
> What's your Point?  I'm well aware of Dolby and it's characteristics!  Noise 
> reduction right?  I think you missed my point here so let mme try to define 
> it so you will understand my comment as it pertains to the thread.  Here's 
> what I wrote:
> 
>> Erroneous!
>>
>> You will always suffer from sound quality degradation every time you
>> duplicate an analog source file.
> 
> What this means is that if you take the original analog source, in this case 
> LP's as per the subject line, and record it on to another analog source, as 
> you suggested, cassette tapes, then transfer it to your PC to Wav and/or 
> then MP3, you will loose more sound quality then if you did the same 
> excluding the cassette tape step and just recorded the LP directly to a 
> digital  format.
> 
> I hope this clarify's things for you Gary...Keith
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
> 
> 
> I am Curious Keith, what kind of noise reduction systems are you familiar 
> with
> when it comes to recording on tape. DBX was one of the best noise reductions 
> I
> have ever used for recording. ARNS was another good type of noise reduction. 
> you
> couldn't beat DBX. I don't know how old you are, but in the seventies, 
> everyone
> coveted DBX.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
> 
> 
>> Hi you wrote:
>> I guess you have never heard good tape. good high bios or chrome tapes 
>> sound
>> equal to the cd.
>>
>> Erroneous!
>>
>> You will always suffer from sound quality degradation every time you
>> duplicate an analog source file...Keith
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>>
>>
>> I guess you have never heard good tape. good high bios or chrome tapes 
>> sound
>> equal to the cd.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>>
>>
>> But, tape sounds horrible and has relatively poor frequency response, at
>> least as far as music goes.  Talking cassette tape, btw.  Of course
>> personally recorded, out of print, or tapes of books are a different 
>> story.
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Keith Gillard
>>  To: PC audio discussion list.
>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:32 PM
>>  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>>
>>
>>  Hi Don you wrote:
>>  if you don't already have a preamp I would buy a mixer instead. It will
>> have
>>  turntable preamps in it plus you can do so much more with it. For example
>>  you could record your tapes over to digital as well.
>>
>>  sounds good.  What kind of mixer do you have and how easy or blind
>> friendly
>>  is it?
>>
>>  Thanks...Keith
>>  ?  I have the
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:56 PM
>>  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>>
>>
>>  if you don't already have a preamp I would buy a mixer instead. It will
>> have
>>  turntable preamps in it plus you can do so much more with it. For example
>>  you could record your tapes over to digital as well.
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:22 AM
>>  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>>
>>
>>  Hello Keith, go to http://www.tracertek.com and you will find a couple of
>>  really
>>  nice preamps you can use for hooking up the turntable to the computer.
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:14 AM
>>  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>>
>>
>>  > Hi,
>>  >
>>  > Good info,
>>  >
>>  > Can you suggest a good little pre-amp that would work well with my JVC
>>  > turn
>>  > table?
>>  >
>>  > BTW:  How is Groove Mechanic for accessibility?
>>  >
>>  > Cheers...Keith
>>  >
>>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  > From: "John J. Jacques" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>  > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:42 AM
>>  > Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Hi all, the easiest way to do this, is if you have a turntable that you
>>  > can set up close to your computer!  You can either get an inexpensive
>>  > pre-amp that will boost the low level of a magnetic phono cartridge and
>>  > equalize it correctly and feed the output of that pre-amp to the line
>>  > input of your sound card!  Then, all you need is a sound editing
>> program,
>>  > such as Gold Wave, or Groove Mechanic wich is designed for recording
>>  > vinyl!  An alternative solution, if there is no way to get a turntable
>> in
>>  > the same area as the PC, is if you already have a fairly good quality
>>  > stereo system, with a turntable and a cassette deck, you can first
>> record
>>  > the vinyl LP's on to a good quality cassette and then, plug a cassette
>>  > deck into your PC's sound card and record that way!  Since I have my
>>  > stereo system set up right here along with my computers, I just feed my
>>  > main pc's second sound card into the tape monitor loop of my reciever,
>> so
>>  > I can record anything that I wish onto the hard drive!
>>  >
>>  > HTH:
>>  > J. J.
>>  > John Jacques
>>  > Amateur Radio Station: KG7FA
>>  > "Where Cat Is,  Is Civilization!"
>>  > Check Out My Web Page At: www.myspace.com/johnjacquesmusic
>>  >
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