Yes, GW does a nice job at noise reduction for 2 reasons: (1) you 
have a long enough sample without speech, music or anything which is, 
at all, what you wish to keep, and (2) when you don't have a long 
sample, let GW use "initial noise" as the preset. It takes, again, 
quite a bit longer than the SF plug-in however, but it does work, 
only, and that is the important word, if used properly and if necessary.



Curtis Delzer




At 10:59 AM 5/28/2006, you wrote:
>Doesn't prove anything except that you can't use it to do what you want.
>You need more of a sample than that.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:00 AM
>Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
> > Yeah, I used it a few times on some TV audio I record with my tuner, it
> > sort
> > of adds an under water  sound to things.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >
> >
> >>I agree with your assessment. the  noise reduction in goldwave does a
> >>lousy
> >> job when you use noise from the clipboard.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM
> >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>
> >>
> >>> Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not
> >>> feel
> >>> that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can
> >>> with
> >>> SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.
> >>> And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good
> >>> as
> >>> the noise reduction in SoundForge.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
> >>> program
> >>> is
> >>> : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
> >>> :
> >>> : ----- Original Message -----
> >>> : From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> : To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
> >>> : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>> :
> >>> :
> >>> : >I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
> >>> things
> >>> : >like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
> >>> : >compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my
> >>> needs
> >>> are
> >>> : >the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
> >>> person
> >>> : >should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
> >>> price
> >>> : >range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
> >>> Goldwave
> >>> : >will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
> >>> with
> >>> : >getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
> >>> : >
> >>> : >
> >>> : >
> >>> : > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> : > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
> >>> : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>> : >
> >>> : >
> >>> : > : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
> >>> How
> >>> : > much
> >>> : > : finer do you want than that?
> >>> : > :
> >>> : > : Bruce
> >>> : > :
> >>> : > : --
> >>> : > : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> >>> : > : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
> >>> : > :
> >>> : > : Bruce Toews
> >>> : > : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> : > : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
> >>> : > : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> >>> http://www.ogts.net
> >>> : > : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> >>> : > :
> >>> : > : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
> >>> : > :
> >>> : > : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
> >>> precise
> >>> : > or
> >>> : > : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
> >>> any
> >>> : > price.
> >>> : > : >
> >>> : > : > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> : > : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> : > : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> : > : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
> >>> : > : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>> : > : >
> >>> : > : >
> >>> : > : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you
> >>> have
> >>> : > to
> >>> : > : >> take
> >>> : > : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound
> >>> editor!
> >>> : > What
> >>> : > : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
> >>> what
> >>> : > you
> >>> : > : >> can
> >>> : > : >> afford!
> >>> : > : >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> : > : >> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> : > : >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> : > : >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
> >>> : > : >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>> : > : >>
> >>> : > : >>
> >>> : > : >>> HI,
> >>> : > : >>> But it's also pretty expensive.
> >>> : > : >>>
> >>> : > : >>> Best regards
> >>> : > : >>> Brian
> >>> : > : >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> : > : >>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> : > : >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> : > : >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
> >>> : > : >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>> : > : >>>
> >>> : > : >>>
> >>> : > : >>>> I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio
> >>> Recorder
> >>> from
> >>> : > APH
> >>> : > : >>>> is
> >>> : > : >>>> also quite a program!
> >>> : > : >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> : > : >>>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> : > : >>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> : > : >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
> >>> : > : >>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>> : > : >>>>
> >>> : > : >>>>
> >>> : > : >>>>> I think that the individual needs to take a look at each,
> >>> decide
> >>> : > what
> >>> : > : >>>>> they
> >>> : > : >>>>> really need to do, and after all that then make the decision
> >>> on
> >>> : > how much
> >>> : > : >>>>> they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what
> >>> they
> >>> : > need to
> >>> : > : >>>>> do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for
> >>> radio
> >>> : > : >>>>> programs,
> >>> : > : >>>>> etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and
> >>> clean
> >>> : > the
> >>> : > : >>>>> files
> >>> : > : >>>>> up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need
> >>> all
> >>> the
> >>> : > : >>>>> features
> >>> : > : >>>>> of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with
> >>> Goldwave
> >>> : > or
> >>> : > : >>>>> Audasity or something else.
> >>> : > : >>>>>
> >>> : > : >>>>>
> >>> : > : >>>>>
> >>> : > : >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> : > : >>>>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> : > : >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> : > : >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
> >>> : > : >>>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>> : > : >>>>>
> >>> : > : >>>>>
> >>> : > : >>>>> : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing
> >>> features it
> >>> : > has.
> >>> : > : >>>>> I
> >>> : > : >>>>> also
> >>> : > : >>>>> : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a
> >>> very
> >>> : > good
> >>> : > : >>>>> program.
> >>> : > : >>>>> : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of
> >>> course,
> >>> : > Sound
> >>> : > : >>>>> Forge
> >>> : > : >>>>> : was the first editor I had experience with and that I
> >>> think
> >>> does
> >>> : > : >>>>> color
> >>> : > : >>>>> an
> >>> : > : >>>>> : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can
> >>> find 6
> >>> : > : >>>>> people
> >>> : > : >>>>> who
> >>> : > : >>>>> : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is
> >>> first,
> >>> : > can
> >>> : > : >>>>> you
> >>> : > : >>>>> : afford both programs in question and then second, download
> >>> and
> >>> : > try
> >>> : > : >>>>> out
> >>> : > : >>>>> each
> >>> : > : >>>>> : demo.
> >>> : > : >>>>> :
> >>> : > : >>>>> : Just my thoughts,
> >>> : > : >>>>> :
> >>> : > : >>>>> : Chuck
> >>> : > : >>>>> :
> >>> : > : >>>>> : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the
> >>> Noise
> >>> : > : >>>>> Reduction
> >>> : > : >>>>> : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then
> >>> some
> >>> : > of the
> >>> : > : >>>>> NR
> >>> : > : >>>>> : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
> >>> : > : >>>>> :
> >>> : > : >>>>> :
> >>> : > : >>>>> : ----- Original Message -----
> >>> : > : >>>>> : From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> : > : >>>>> : To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> : > : >>>>> : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
> >>> : > : >>>>> : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>> : > : >>>>> :
> >>> : > : >>>>> :
> >>> : > : >>>>> : > Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects
> >>> that
> >>> : > it
> >>> : > : >>>>> has,
> >>> : > : >>>>> as
> >>> : > : >>>>> : > well
> >>> : > : >>>>> : > as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also
> >>> like
> >>> : > the
> >>> : > : >>>>> ability to
> >>> : > : >>>>> : > pitch shift with it!
> >>> : > : >>>>> : > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> : > : >>>>> : > From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> : > : >>>>> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> : > : >>>>> : > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
> >>> : > : >>>>> : > Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> Hi guys,
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >>    Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast
> >>> Edit.
> >>> I
> >>> : > find
> >>> : > : >>>>> it
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I
> >>> bought
> >>> it
> >>> : > about
> >>> : > : >>>>> 3
> >>> : > : >>>>> years
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't
> >>> want
> >>> to
> >>> : > learn
> >>> : > : >>>>> a
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> whole
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> new program.
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >>    I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more
> >>> powerful
> >>> : > with
> >>> : > : >>>>> effects,
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats,
> >>> that
> >>> : > kind of
> >>> : > : >>>>> thing.
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear
> >>> right
> >>> : > where
> >>> : > : >>>>> that
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.
> >>> The
> >>> : > price
> >>> : > : >>>>> of
> >>> : > : >>>>> gold
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs
> >>> more
> >>> : > and
> >>> : > : >>>>> that's
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> really all I know about it.  What do you all like and
> >>> or
> >>> : > dislike
> >>> : > : >>>>> about
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
> >>> : > : >>>>> : >> Denny
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