I agree, to me that's the only way. Not to mention the big problem of doing 
other things while your doing production. Things seem to work better with 
external speech.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Marthouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: prophet


> The best way to handle speech output in broadcast automation or a 
> production
> situation is with an external hardware synthesizer.  That's what I do at 
> my
> shop.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:22 AM
> Subject: Re: prophet
>
>
>> Well I am working on it. Hopefully I will be able to come up with some
>> answers soon. The only work around that I can think of is to make use of
> two
>> computers. One computer for the production and programming elements using
>> screen reading software. Once you have recorded your program, you can 
>> then
>> send the file to your host computer that would go directly to air. The
> work
>> around that we would be looking for would be similar to that of call
> centers
>> in that only the operator would hear the prompts from the screen reader.
> In
>> this case I can only assume that they must be using multi channel sound
>> cards and somehow splitting the different audio feeds.  .
>> I find that what is lacking with radio automation software is the amount
> of
>> information on the screen. Some software programs are so detailed that
> they
>> would require a lot of information from a screen reader program, and 
>> there
>> are other programs that simply do not prvide enough information for the
>> operator. Unfortunately at this point in time it is basically a visual
>> thing. I do have some functional vision, but would like to have some 
>> audio
>> prompts simply as a guide as there are simply too many functions that can
> be
>> overlooked with out being prompted. The tune tracker software package was
>> designed with a broadcaster in mind, as it has functioning buttons that
>> resemble buttons on a cart machine, tape player or CD player. It even has
> VU
>> meters that look like the real thing. You would be hard pressed to find a
>> radio station these days that didn't operate with out radio automation
>> software. People who are blind or visually impaired are simply put at a
>> disadvantage. I have worked with Dallet radio automation software and
> found
>> it to be very user friendly. I used it on a computer with a large monitor
>> along with Zoomtext. I have no idea how it would react with a screen
> reader.
>> All that I can say is that electronic editing is much better than using a
>> razor blade and editing tape. Don't want to go back to those days ever
>> again.
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: prophet
>>
>>
>> > I could see the timer displays not working well with speech, but they
>> don't
>> > matter that much if you know at about what point the vocals in a song
>> would
>> > start when listening or where a good point is to talk over the end. I
> see
>> > the touch screen interface not working for obvious reasons. I wonder 
>> > how
>> > hard the artist and title info are to obtain using speech, and also
>> > operating the other controls of the software? I wonder how one would 
>> > get
>> the
>> > screen reader redirected to a cue channel where only the operator hears
>> it?
>> > I assume each channel off the system is it's own physical sound card so
>> have
>> > windows default be for that purpose. Maybe radio sound cards are
>> > multichannel with multiple outputs that software can address
> individually,
>> I
>> > wish I could figure out how on my turtle beach to force jaws to another
> of
>> > the 3 outputs that would then have nothing else on it.
>> >
>> > I hope this tune tracker thing can be made to work. . It sure would be
>> nice
>> > to see something that is workable.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:56 PM
>> > Subject: Re: prophet
>> >
>> >
>> > > Talking over intros is called ramping upor ramping down if you are
> doing
>> > > the
>> > > back end of a song. Most of the automation software packages that I
> have
>> > > looked at have a digital display indicating TTV. If you are familiar
>> with
>> > > the intro of a particular song, ramp up time shouldn't be abig issue.
> I
>> > > have
>> > > yet to find a fully accessible music scheduler that will tell you
>> > > everything
>> > > that is going on on the screen from song placement in the lineup to
> song
>> > > title and artist. Believe me I have looked at a number of radio
>> automation
>> > > software packages, and there simply isn't a package out there that I
>> could
>> > > find that will meet all of our needs. As I see it a screen reader
> would
>> > > have
>> > > to be separated and put onto a cue channel, so that the speech would
> not
>> > > go
>> > > on the air, but the operator would have full control of all of the
>> > > functions
>> > > and would know what is going on at all times. Unfortunately many of
> the
>> > > software packages that are being developed today use a touch screen
>> system
>> > > for live on air presentation. If you want the system to go into
>> automation
>> > > mode you simply touch an icon on the screen and the switchover
>> > > automatically
>> > > takes place. There is a software package called Tune Tracker that I 
>> > > am
>> > > looking into. It comes with preprogrammed time checks, current
>> > > temperature,
>> > > ramp up and ramp down times etc. I am not exactly sure how user
> friendly
>> > > it
>> > > is going to be for blind or visually impaired people, although the
>> > > developer
>> > > of this particular software package would probably welcome the
> challenge
>> > > of
>> > > coming up with a radio automation system that is accessible with the
> use
>> > > of
>> > > a screen reader. .
>> > > system.
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:43 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: prophet
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> I wonder if the new Nextgen stuff I hear about is accessible? I 
>> > >> heard
>> of
>> > > one
>> > >> recommended on a streaming board that Prophet makes called Nextgen
> 101.
>> I
>> > >> guess the deal with it is that it is inexpensive because you could
> make
>> > >> it
>> > >> simple or get into more complex things with it. Accessible voice
>> tracking
>> > >> would be cool with the ability to hear the endings of songs to know
>> where
>> > > to
>> > >> start talking. The easy solution to that is to work at a station 
>> > >> that
>> > >> promises never to talk over anything as lining it up wouldn't be an
>> issue
>> > >> then.
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:23 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: prophet
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > the station at my college uses it but i have not yet gotten to see
> it
>> > >> >
>> > >> > tj
>> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > >> > From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:41 AM
>> > >> > Subject: RE: prophet
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Bottom line, it's awful.
>> > >> >> Unless someone has used the latest software, the original version
>> was
>> > >> >> awful.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:35 AM
>> > >> >> To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> > >> >> Subject: prophet
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Hi,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Does anyone here have any experience using Prophet Systems
> software
>> > >> >> for
>> > >> >> running a radio station?  I may have a chance to work with it and
>> > >> >> wondered
>> > >> >> if it is accessible at all.
>> > >> >> Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>> > >> >> Betsy
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
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