I'm sorry but if I were them and read some of these posts, I don't think I 
would waste my time and do anything for blind folks at all!!!!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Scanlon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:57 PM
Subject: DVD player - Re: Premiere CD Creator


>I would really like to see this company develope a DVD player that was
> truely accessible. It could have the ability to easily access the
> additional "descriptive audio" which is difficult  to access because each
> DVD is set up differently. Or at least that is my understanding.
>
> P.
>
>
> At 11:43 AM 2/01/2006, you wrote:
>>Yes, at least in my opinion. I will say it one more time before I give
>>this subject a rest. Since there are other products out there that require
>>very little learning curve and perform the same or greater functionality,
>>the only message I get from this product is that blind people need to be
>>spoon-fed specialized software. I see very little benefit to anyone,
>>beginningg or novice, in paying twice the price of an off-the-shelf
>>program for limited functionality and an interface which is only
>>marginally, if at all, simpler than other off-the-shelf interfaces. I have
>>nothing against the company. I've seen a lot of their products and a lot
>>of them serve a distinct purpose and I support them. But this product, I
>>think, just costs new computer users unnecessarily and makes them think
>>that they need a specialized program when they really don't.
>>
>>Bruce
>>
>>--
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>>On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Gary Wood wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Bruce.  Is there any reason that a program like this shouldn't be 
>> > out
>> > there?
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:38 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hard to make suggestions for a product which I believe should not be 
>> >> out
>> >> there in the first place.
>> >> Bruce
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bruce Toews
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>> >> On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Brian Olesen wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>> Instead of kritizising a product made especially for the blind we 
>> >>> should
>> >>> probably write the company with serious info about, what they should 
>> >>> fix
>> >>> to make the program the very best also for the advanced users.
>> >>>
>> >>> Just my 2 cents.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards and happy new year.
>> >>> Brian
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:14 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> I use nero too. Is cd r win just as good as nero? If so, I'll stick 
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> nero instead. I liked roxios easy cd creater. I had version 4, but
>> >>>> unfortuneately, when I got xp, I had to trash it and I ended up 
>> >>>> using
>> >>>> xps
>> >>>> burning utility until such time when I got real player, which I also
>> >>>> like
>> >>>> very much. I also like nero, especially for mp3 and dvds.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tyler
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:04 AM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> No.  I think the company that makes CDRWin is goldenhawk or 
>> >>>>> something
>> >>>>> like that.  I downloaded a version once to look at but I was 
>> >>>>> already
>> >>>>> usuing nero so I stuck with that.
>> >>>>> At 06:07 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:
>> >>>>>> Oh. Are you saying cd rw win isn't a worthwhile company?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Tyler
>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:44 PM
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have never used CDRWin.  I use Nero and I bought CD Premiere
>> >>>>>>> Creator because I think there is a need for this kind of program 
>> >>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>> I try to support worthwhile companies.
>> >>>>>>> At 02:56 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> I remember when I used cdr WIN, it told me I needed a skuzzy 
>> >>>>>>>> burner.
>> >>>>>>>> Is
>> >>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>> true?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Tyler
>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:02 PM
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premere CD Creator
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> With most of the major packages it can be set as a default.
>> >>>>>>>>> At 01:07 PM 12/29/2005, you wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> CDRWIN has no gap between tracks by default. 
>> >>>>>>>>>> www.goldenhawk.com. I
>> >>>>>>>>>> know
>> >>>>>>>>>> that with the other major products, this can be set, though I
>> >>>>>>>>>> don't
>> >>>>>>>>>> know
>> >>>>>>>>>> if it can be made a default.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>> Bruce Toews
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>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Michael Babcock wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> does this software, I have downloaded it, have the 2 second
>> >>>>>>>>>> scilence between
>> >>>>>>>>>>> tracks, and if so, can it be removed?
>> >>>>>>>>>>> any one know of a good "free" or "cheap" software wich I can 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> turn
>> >>>>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>>>> feature on so I dont have the 2 second scilence between 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> tracks?
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Nolan Crabb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:50 AM
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Premere CD Creator
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian suggested that less advanced users could benefit from
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Premier's
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> CD
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> creator.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely agree, and thank you for reminding me of that. 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> feel
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> certain degree of shame for those times when I forget that 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> there
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> really is
>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> solid market for straightforward simplicity.  You're right
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> indeed;
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> there
>> >>>>>>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of blind and low-vision folks who don't want all 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> arcane
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> techno-goop that can accompany more advanced CD creators, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Premier program does, in fact, create a CD as advertised.  I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> still
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> use
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> those occasions when I'm in a real hurry, want to just burn
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> something
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> mega-quick, and get on with other things.  I hope my 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> previous
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> messages
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> didn't imply that the program is a failure; indeed, it is 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> far
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> In
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> fact, for the market for which it was designed, I think it 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> does
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> really
>> >>>>>>>>>>> quite
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> well.  Thanks again, Brian, for reminding me of things I 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> really
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> have forgotten.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kindest Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nolan
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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