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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: DVD player - Re: Premiere CD Creator


> The DVD version of the movie Ray is DVS described.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 8:07 PM
> Subject: Re: DVD player - Re: Premiere CD Creator
>
>
> >I agree, a nicely laid-out DVD player would be nice. But if each disk is
> > different, it will be hard to standardize witha player. The only DVD's
> > with described video I've seen are the ones for season two of the
Canadian
> > hit series Corner Gas. To get the DVS with those DVD's you just cycle
> > through the different audio tracks: 5.1 surround, stereo, DVS, audio
> > commentaries. My DVD player has a button for cycling through the various
> > audio tracks.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Toews
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> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Peter Scanlon wrote:
> >
> >> I would really like to see this company develope a DVD player that was
> >> truely accessible. It could have the ability to easily access the
> >> additional "descriptive audio" which is difficult  to access because
each
> >> DVD is set up differently. Or at least that is my understanding.
> >>
> >> P.
> >>
> >>
> >> At 11:43 AM 2/01/2006, you wrote:
> >>> Yes, at least in my opinion. I will say it one more time before I give
> >>> this subject a rest. Since there are other products out there that
> >>> require
> >>> very little learning curve and perform the same or greater
> >>> functionality,
> >>> the only message I get from this product is that blind people need to
be
> >>> spoon-fed specialized software. I see very little benefit to anyone,
> >>> beginningg or novice, in paying twice the price of an off-the-shelf
> >>> program for limited functionality and an interface which is only
> >>> marginally, if at all, simpler than other off-the-shelf interfaces. I
> >>> have
> >>> nothing against the company. I've seen a lot of their products and a
lot
> >>> of them serve a distinct purpose and I support them. But this product,
I
> >>> think, just costs new computer users unnecessarily and makes them
think
> >>> that they need a specialized program when they really don't.
> >>>
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Bruce Toews
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> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Gary Wood wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Bruce.  Is there any reason that a program like this shouldn't be
> >>>> out
> >>>> there?
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:38 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hard to make suggestions for a product which I believe should not be
> >>>>> out
> >>>>> there in the first place.
> >>>>> Bruce
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Bruce Toews
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Brian Olesen wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>> Instead of kritizising a product made especially for the blind we
> >>>>>> should
> >>>>>> probably write the company with serious info about, what they
should
> >>>>>> fix
> >>>>>> to make the program the very best also for the advanced users.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best regards and happy new year.
> >>>>>> Brian
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:14 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I use nero too. Is cd r win just as good as nero? If so, I'll
stick
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> nero instead. I liked roxios easy cd creater. I had version 4, but
> >>>>>>> unfortuneately, when I got xp, I had to trash it and I ended up
> >>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>> xps
> >>>>>>> burning utility until such time when I got real player, which I
also
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> very much. I also like nero, especially for mp3 and dvds.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tyler
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:04 AM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No.  I think the company that makes CDRWin is goldenhawk or
> >>>>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>> like that.  I downloaded a version once to look at but I was
> >>>>>>>> already
> >>>>>>>> usuing nero so I stuck with that.
> >>>>>>>> At 06:07 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Oh. Are you saying cd rw win isn't a worthwhile company?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Tyler
> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:44 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have never used CDRWin.  I use Nero and I bought CD Premiere
> >>>>>>>>>> Creator because I think there is a need for this kind of
program
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> I try to support worthwhile companies.
> >>>>>>>>>> At 02:56 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I used cdr WIN, it told me I needed a skuzzy
> >>>>>>>>>>> burner.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Is
> >>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>> true?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Tyler
> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:02 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premere CD Creator
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> With most of the major packages it can be set as a default.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> At 01:07 PM 12/29/2005, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CDRWIN has no gap between tracks by default.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.goldenhawk.com. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that with the other major products, this can be set, though
I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> if it can be made a default.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce Toews
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ogts.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Michael Babcock wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does this software, I have downloaded it, have the 2 second
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> scilence between
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks, and if so, can it be removed?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any one know of a good "free" or "cheap" software wich I
can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature on so I dont have the 2 second scilence between
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Nolan Crabb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:50 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Premere CD Creator
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian suggested that less advanced users could benefit
from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Premier's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> creator.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely agree, and thank you for reminding me of
that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certain degree of shame for those times when I forget that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solid market for straightforward simplicity.  You're right
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of blind and low-vision folks who don't want all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arcane
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techno-goop that can accompany more advanced CD creators,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Premier program does, in fact, create a CD as advertised.
I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those occasions when I'm in a real hurry, want to just
burn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mega-quick, and get on with other things.  I hope my
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't imply that the program is a failure; indeed, it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact, for the market for which it was designed, I think it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.  Thanks again, Brian, for reminding me of things I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have forgotten.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindest Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nolan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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