I know I have a choice in this matter and, as such, will move on, as this company is not interested in doing things to benefit me. It is unfortunate, as it is a good program and could be useful. "Time to move on." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Base [LOUNGE-RADIO]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: [SpacialAudio] Ant: [SpacialAudio] Maybe We should do it ourselves (Create our own Broadcasting program)e
> sorry normaly i keep my mouth shut. but this is going > to far. here my comment : > > with all my respekt to all sightless peoples - i'm on > the other side with 2 sightless friends. they are my > best friends (one of them a software developer) , and > i know how they fight for proper software and helpfull > things in live - i know how they feel !!! believe me - > as i showed them your mail, they where laughing out > loud. you are right in a few points, but my friends > argue like this : you cant claim for a software > modification and if they dont immediately change their > mind and software architecture (GUI) as you like to > have it - complaining like you do in a arrogant way, > dont work ! > > i'm sorry but you are not alone..... > > > > --- Jardata_Mail_Services > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > >> Hello Fellow Blind Broadcasters!I received a >> response to my email to Spacial Audio about the >> problems I = >> have with using Sam Broadcaster and, just like Steve >> got, I got a = >> response from a guy named Louis, the main programmer >> I think, telling me = >> how understanding he is with my plight, but assuring >> me he has no = >> intentions of changing the program to meet our >> needs. In other words, = >> telling me to "Leave it or lump it," which I will >> do. It does bother me = >> that people, who write good software, can totally >> ignore a large segment = >> of people who use the type of technology that Sam >> Broadcaster is used = >> for. I don't buy that jive about it being too tough >> to make the program = >> usable and he is too busy to make a change. I think >> it is much more = >> difficult to write it in the way he did than to use >> conventional Windows = >> programming techniques to do it. It all comes down >> to how much they = >> want to make their program useful to all. I see >> from their list = >> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that they are >> always doing things = >> to make the program more useful to their sighted >> users. It is a good = >> program, but it has some flaws and its users write >> constantly about one = >> thing or another not working. They jump on these >> problems right away. = >> Why can't we get the same consideration? There are >> a few blind people = >> who use the program and, at least one, wrote Spacial >> Audio a letter = >> thanking them for the work they have done with the >> program. This person = >> also said they haven't had any problems navigating >> around the screen. I = >> have tried, but still cannot see what this guy is >> using to get such = >> great results. I checked his station and it is only >> music, no live = >> broadcast. this is all we can do with Sam >> Broadcaster; that is, if we = >> get sighted help. I am not interested in using Sam >> Broadcaster with = >> sighted help. I need to be able to use it alone; >> when no sighted help = >> is around.Well, my question to the list is: Couldn't >> we, as blind people, with our = >> many special screen considerations, write such a >> program ourselves and = >> make it as useful as it needs to be? =20Database:I >> think the most important aspect of any broadcasting >> program is the = >> database. A program such as the old dbase 3 Plus >> would be great for = >> this purpose. It was a good DOS program, but I am >> sure it could be = >> updated to work in the modern Windows platform. I >> am mostly talking = >> about the design features (fields) and indexing >> capabilities of the = >> program. It also used a basic program type program >> to interface with = >> the database. With dbase 3 you could write >> structures and manipulate = >> the databases easily. We could add immediate play >> features by putting = >> MP3's in a field and add immediate play capability. >> Then we could = >> create playlists and libraries and store them in >> large databases that we = >> can set up via command lines. I really enjoyed >> using the old dbase = >> program and feel it could be of great use to us in >> such a program. =20Servers and Connecting to the >> Internet:A second important component of such a >> program would be connecting to = >> servers, such as Shoutcast, etc. The Shoutcast >> servers and plug-ins are = >> relatively easy to use, but I think they could be >> made easier to use. = >> That is, write them in a fill-in-the blank edit >> program. Write it in = >> C++ or Visual Basic or use old Basic. I don't like >> the .INI file = >> structure and think it would be better in a more >> conventional program. = >> Once the program is set up, it could be added to a >> broadcast program and = >> we could just go to a menu item, go to a tab-like >> menu form and fill in = >> or check appropriate boxes; then go to apply and >> okay and the server or = >> plug-in would be set up and in the program and ready >> to use at a click = >> of the key. Then, when we wanted to connect, we >> could just go to the = >> menu, click on or hit the space bar or the connect >> button and "we would = >> be on." I use this approach with my internet >> program--I connect, use = >> the net for a while, and then "disconnect, by going >> to Earthlink and = >> tabbing over to the disconnect button and striking >> or clicking on = >> disconnect--then I am off. Connecting to the server >> shouldn't be a big = >> deal.Accessing Songs during broadcasting:Once we get >> the disconnect/connect thing worked out, we are >> ready to go. = >> I would put access to libraries and playlists right >> on the menus. We = >> could then just go to them and check them to play a >> particular song or = >> playlist. =20Many More things to do:We could then >> write microphone access; ways of talking on line; >> setting = >> up compression and other features; and then do our >> thing with our music. = >> It is doable.I know we have Winamp, OTSDJ, and >> other programs, but these programs are = >> not so easy to use either. I think we, as blind >> people, have the = >> technology and technical training among us that we >> could do such a = >> thing. ACB Radio is a great example of what blind >> people can do when = >> they work on it. Also people like George Buys with >> Audio Tips do a = >> great service as well. =20Any program we write >> should be professionally done and easy to use. I = >> think we could do it. Does anybody agree with me. >> Is this too tough a = >> task. I don't think so. =20Once we lick the band >> width situation and compression, etc., then we are = >> on our way. =20Take care and thanks for listening to >> my raging on about this problem. = >> I enjoy broadcasting over the net and it makes me >> "damn" mad when = >> people, who write programs, stick their A__es in our >> faces and say, "I = >> understand your problem, but I can'' (or won't") >> change my program to = >> help you. I am mad enough to do this thing myself. >> This is how many = >> inventions and new products come on the market. >> Before I go, = >> "Freedombox" is another example of someone willing >> to do things = >> ourselves. I guess you can see, I am mad about this >> stuff. We spend = >> our money for stuff and still people don't give a >> damn and say "we'll = >> just have to lump it." =20I would have been a lot >> happier if that guy at Spacial Audio would have = >> said, "I see your problem and we, at Spacial Audio >> and Audio Realm, will = >> do anything necessary to make our product useful to >> you, our valuable = >> customers, as well." You know, even their Audio >> Realm web site = >> presents a problem for my screen reader. One of >> their chief programmers = >> said they will fix this web site soon. Nothing >> fixed yet though. Maybe = >> this speaks to what type company this is.James >> Robinson >> f vo >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> _____________________________ >> This is not spam, you signed up for this list, if >> you do not wish to recieve more email from this >> list, please send an empty email message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] email account. >> > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Gesendet von Yahoo! 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