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From: "DAN REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: [SpacialAudio] RE: Maybe We should do it ourselves (Create our own 
Broadcasting program)e


> There isn't a need for such a program as sam3 works just fine.
> I use Jaws Version 7.0 and the 3.42 version of Sam and have no problems 
> maneuvering around.
> When my station was up and running, I chose to keep it automated without 
> live voice only because my station
> was in my living room with 3 kids playing most of the time.
> Voice fx works great using f11 to turn  the microphone on and off.
> If you read the documentation, you can use the program just fine.
> Goodluck to you,
> Dan
>
>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 3:00 PM
> Subject: [SpacialAudio] Maybe We should do it ourselves (Create our own 
> Broadcasting program)e
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>> Hello Fellow Blind Broadcasters!I received a response to my email to 
>> Spacial Audio about the problems I =
>> have with using Sam Broadcaster and, just like Steve got, I got a =
>> response from a guy named Louis, the main programmer I think, telling me 
>> =
>> how understanding he is with my plight, but assuring me he has no =
>> intentions of changing the program to meet our needs.  In other words, =
>> telling me to "Leave it or lump it," which I will do.  It does bother me 
>> =
>> that people, who write good software, can totally ignore a large segment 
>> =
>> of people who use the type of technology that Sam Broadcaster is used =
>> for.  I don't buy that jive about it being too tough to make the program 
>> =
>> usable and he is too busy to make a change.  I think it is much more =
>> difficult to write it in the way he did than to use conventional Windows 
>> =
>> programming techniques to do it.  It all comes down to how much they =
>> want to make their program useful to all.  I see from their list =
>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that they are always doing things =
>> to make the program more useful to their sighted users.  It is a good =
>> program, but it has some flaws and its users write constantly about one =
>> thing or another not working.  They jump on these problems right away.  =
>> Why can't we get the same consideration?  There are a few blind people =
>> who use the program and, at least one, wrote Spacial Audio a letter =
>> thanking them for the work they have done with the program.  This person 
>> =
>> also said they haven't had any problems navigating around the screen.  I 
>> =
>> have tried, but still cannot see what this guy is using to get such =
>> great results.  I checked his station and it is only music, no live =
>> broadcast.  this is all we can do with Sam Broadcaster; that is, if we =
>> get sighted help.  I am not interested in using Sam Broadcaster with =
>> sighted help.  I need to be able to use it alone; when no sighted help =
>> is around.Well, my question to the list is: Couldn't we, as blind people, 
>> with our =
>> many special screen considerations, write such a program ourselves and =
>> make it as useful as it needs to be? =20Database:I think the most 
>> important aspect of any broadcasting program is the =
>> database.  A program such as the old dbase 3 Plus would be great for =
>> this purpose.  It was a good DOS program, but I am sure it could be =
>> updated to work in the modern Windows platform.  I am mostly talking =
>> about the design features (fields) and indexing capabilities of the =
>> program.  It also used a basic program type program to interface with =
>> the database.  With dbase 3 you could write structures and manipulate =
>> the databases easily.  We could add immediate play features by putting =
>> MP3's in a field and add immediate play capability.  Then we could =
>> create playlists and libraries and store them in large databases that we 
>> =
>> can set up via command lines.  I really enjoyed using the old dbase =
>> program and feel it could be of great use to us in such a program. 
>> =20Servers and Connecting to the Internet:A second important component of 
>> such a program would be connecting to =
>> servers, such as Shoutcast, etc.  The Shoutcast servers and plug-ins are 
>> =
>> relatively easy to use, but I think they could be made easier to use.  =
>> That is, write them in a fill-in-the blank edit program.  Write it in =
>> C++ or Visual Basic or use old Basic.  I don't like the .INI file =
>> structure and think it would be better in a more conventional program.  =
>> Once the program is set up, it could be added to a broadcast program and 
>> =
>> we could just go to a menu item, go to a tab-like menu form and fill in =
>> or check appropriate boxes; then go to apply and okay and the server or =
>> plug-in would be set up and in the program and ready to use at a click =
>> of the key.  Then, when we wanted to connect, we could just go to the =
>> menu, click on or hit the space bar or the connect button and "we would =
>> be on."  I use this approach with my internet program--I connect, use =
>> the net for a while, and then "disconnect, by going to Earthlink and =
>> tabbing over to the disconnect button and striking or clicking on =
>> disconnect--then I am off.  Connecting to the server shouldn't be a big =
>> deal.Accessing Songs during broadcasting:Once we get the 
>> disconnect/connect thing worked out, we are ready to go. =
>>  I would put access to libraries and playlists right on the menus.  We =
>> could then just go to them and check them to play a particular song or =
>> playlist. =20Many More things to do:We could then write microphone 
>> access; ways of talking on line; setting =
>> up compression and other features; and then do our thing with our music. 
>> =
>>  It is doable.I know we have Winamp, OTSDJ, and other programs, but these 
>> programs are =
>> not so easy to use either.  I think we, as blind people, have the =
>> technology and technical training among us that we could do such a =
>> thing.  ACB Radio is a great example of what blind people can do when =
>> they work on it.  Also people like George Buys with Audio Tips do a =
>> great service as well. =20Any program we write should be professionally 
>> done and easy to use.  I =
>> think we could do it.   Does anybody agree with me.  Is this too tough a 
>> =
>> task.  I don't think so. =20Once we lick the band width situation and 
>> compression, etc., then we are =
>> on our way. =20Take care and thanks for listening to my raging on about 
>> this problem.  =
>> I enjoy broadcasting over the net and it makes me "damn" mad when =
>> people, who write programs, stick their A__es in our faces and say, "I =
>> understand your problem, but I can'' (or won't") change my program to =
>> help you.  I am mad enough to do this thing myself.  This is how many =
>> inventions and new products come on the market.  Before I go, =
>> "Freedombox" is another example of someone willing to do things =
>> ourselves.  I guess you can see, I am mad about this stuff.  We spend =
>> our money for stuff and still people don't give a damn and say "we'll =
>> just have to lump it." =20I would have been a lot happier if that guy at 
>> Spacial Audio would have =
>> said, "I see your problem and we, at Spacial Audio and Audio Realm, will 
>> =
>> do anything necessary to make our product useful to you, our valuable =
>> customers,  as well."  You know, even their Audio Realm web site =
>> presents a problem for my screen reader.  One of their chief programmers 
>> =
>> said they will fix this web site soon.  Nothing fixed yet though.  Maybe 
>> =
>> this speaks to what type company this is.James Robinson
>> f vo
>>
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