Hi, Well, since you're on this same mailing list, you can be sure that if anyone responds, the mesage or messages will come right into your Inbox the same as this one's doing. So don't worry. I look forward to hearing from knowledgeable people on this. Daniel
----- Original Message ----- From: "shannon work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 4:56 AM Subject: Re: Understanding and comparing compression formats Daniel, If you get any answers back with info that explains any of this MP/3W MA stuff, I would greatly appreciate if you would send a copy my way. I can tell that you already are light years a head of me when it comes to understanding this stuff. Smile Thanks Shannon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC-Audio" <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:39 AM Subject: Understanding and comparing compression formats > I've just been learning how to rip music from CDs to my hard drive using > several different programs, and the one that interests me most at present is > Windows Media Player because of the variety of formats it offers. > > As I explore and test these formats, one thing confuses me: You can rip > Windows Media Audio files about six different ways, not counting the > lossless option. Now, I'm aware that .mp3 ripping can be adjusted to use > bit rates higher than the default 128 in order to restore a little of the > information that a lower bit rate strips out. > > but understanding that is simple compared to the range of .wma options. > Here's the main thing that puzzles me. In the WMP menu for setting your rip > options, there are *two* sets of .wma options, each with its own range of > sound quality level. > > First is the .wma choice that uses a slider to provide you with,as I recall, > three levels of sound quality. I've ripped the same track with all three, > and not only listened to them-- the differences are audible to me, although > pretty subtle compared to the difference between any of them and a less > compressed lossless or uncompress .wav version. Still, for saving space, I > appreciate the compression, so I remain interested. > > Okay. So the smallest .wma sound quality level creates a really small file, > much smaller than the same tune ripped to .mp3. And it doesn't sound any > worse than the .mp3, was my impression. The next higher levels create > larger files, with the highest quality level creating a file for any given > track that's about the same size as a 192 bit rate .mp3. If I go this way, > I'd suppose that's the method I'd use, so you get a little better sound > quality than an .mp3 for the same file size. > > But then, right beneath this on that menu, there's a variable bit rate .wma > option, again set by a slider, but this time starting at 0 per cent and > going up. Zero per cent of what? And, more to the point, if this has to do > with changing bit rates (doesn't the other method, I wonder? How else would > you change quality except by varying the bit rate?) where are the > indications for *what* bit rate this slider takes you through? > > So that's it. I'm really wondering about this stuff as I try to settle on a > preferred rip method to set for my usual use. Does anyone understand > whatever it is I'm not getting about these two adjustable .ma formats? Is > there anywhere to read a simple primer about them? I don't feel the need to > do research if someone can just explain what it is I'm not understanding. > But just in case there's some online information about this that would > clarify it all, that would be fine, too. > > Thanks, > Daniel > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 _______________________________________________ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]