You're quite right! the point I'm making is that you shouldn't need to convert from MP3 to ATRAC, the player should handle MP3 instantly and without problme, the only thing you can do with MP3 files on this unit is to store them on the in-built hard drive, you can't play them unless you convert to ATRAC first therefore, you do lose quality when converting from one format to the other. As I said previously, this is just such a waste of time compared to other devices such as IPOD and IRIVER which just let you transfer MP3 files etc ready to be played at the press of a button.

Now another point that springs to mind. I have a Sony Minidisc machine here which came with the Sonic Stich software. I found this to be rather inaccessible as it used BMP graphic images to display menus etc so I'm wondering just how bad the Sonic Stich software supplied with the player under discussion is. I'm lucky! I use LINUX to do all the tasks I want from my Minidisc player and (I suspect) that much the same sort of LINUX software is available for this player too! but if you're using Windows XP etc then I suggest you don't have much hope in doing the MP3/ATRAC conversion the player requires anyhow, anyone else got thoughts on this?

At 08:25 PM 1/20/2005, kevin and emma wrote:

maybe i'm wrong here, but wasn't, or rather, isn't atrac the format  used
for minidiscs?
kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list.
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