Which is why I am trying to port threading capabilities with pth and was looking for help.
Eric On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Jeff Loucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The point we're making, each in our own way, is that Palm does not > provide threads to developers, which is why there isn't any > documentation. > > There are threads under the hood, but you must play around (hack) to > get to them. They are neither easy for the normal developer nor > recommended. > > There are ways to simulate cooperative threads, and ways to borrow a > background thread, but they are considered hacks. > > So, opinions aside, threads simply aren't a PalmOS resource. > > jeff > > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Eric Bresie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes...but once again...all the threading in Palm is not well >> documented, if it is please include a link to official docs. Hacks, >> workarounds, and the likes seems to be the norm regarding threading. >> >> I mention pthread, because it is a well defined threading API (search >> for pthread on Amazon if you don't agree). Pthreading would make >> porting phoneME much easier with minimal hacks to get threading >> working. >> >> The argument against threading is the same thing going around in the >> iPhone circles. I can understand wanting to limit unwanted threading >> usage which can result in some problems, but in the end if this >> hinders a users experience then I am not in favor of this. >> >> I acknowledge including threading could result in adding complexity >> and risks of unwanted background processes, but if you fail to do >> something, you get left behind by the new kids on the block and become >> irrelevant. Until OS 2 comes out, I (including all those new Centro >> users) have to stay with what exists now. >> >> My hope was to provide an open port so that some additional threading >> is possible. >> >> Eric >> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Dmitry Grinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> That is not it. Here is my explanation for not releasing this info >>> (copy and pasted from another discussion I had recently): >>> >>> I am under no NDA from Palm. :-) Anyways, >>> look at WM. Every app by every script-kiddie who *should not EVER be >>> allowed NEAR a compiler* makes threads and they all stick around and >>> slow down the poor device. As long as I can keep PalmOS thread info >>> away from anyone who might misuse it (read:anyone who hanst considered >>> ALL possible ways to not use threads) I will. This way >>> people look for other solutions to problems, not just start random >>> threads and not think of better ways to do things. >>> >>> I hope this explains my viewpoint >>> >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Best Regards, >>> Dmitry Grinberg >>> (847) 226 9295 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Lionscribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Well you all don't seem to know Dmitry! >>>> He is one of the Supreme Hacking master of the Palm OS. There is nothing >>>> that he loves more then doing dumps and cracking the 68K & ARM Code. >>>> But it seems that he has to make a living too, and therefore he does not >>>> seem to want to share the hard work with us lazy C progranmers. >>>> If we would all offer him let's say 10K, I am sure he would be open for >>>> discussion. >>>> So who is starting the PayPal donations collections? :-) >>>> Lionscribe >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, >>>> please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/ >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, >>> please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Eric Bresie >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -- >> For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, >> please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/ >> > > > > -- > [Jeff Loucks, Gig Harbor, WA, USA] > > -- > For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, > please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/ > -- Eric Bresie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
