The point we're making, each in our own way, is that Palm does not provide threads to developers, which is why there isn't any documentation.
There are threads under the hood, but you must play around (hack) to get to them. They are neither easy for the normal developer nor recommended. There are ways to simulate cooperative threads, and ways to borrow a background thread, but they are considered hacks. So, opinions aside, threads simply aren't a PalmOS resource. jeff On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Eric Bresie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes...but once again...all the threading in Palm is not well > documented, if it is please include a link to official docs. Hacks, > workarounds, and the likes seems to be the norm regarding threading. > > I mention pthread, because it is a well defined threading API (search > for pthread on Amazon if you don't agree). Pthreading would make > porting phoneME much easier with minimal hacks to get threading > working. > > The argument against threading is the same thing going around in the > iPhone circles. I can understand wanting to limit unwanted threading > usage which can result in some problems, but in the end if this > hinders a users experience then I am not in favor of this. > > I acknowledge including threading could result in adding complexity > and risks of unwanted background processes, but if you fail to do > something, you get left behind by the new kids on the block and become > irrelevant. Until OS 2 comes out, I (including all those new Centro > users) have to stay with what exists now. > > My hope was to provide an open port so that some additional threading > is possible. > > Eric > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Dmitry Grinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That is not it. Here is my explanation for not releasing this info >> (copy and pasted from another discussion I had recently): >> >> I am under no NDA from Palm. :-) Anyways, >> look at WM. Every app by every script-kiddie who *should not EVER be >> allowed NEAR a compiler* makes threads and they all stick around and >> slow down the poor device. As long as I can keep PalmOS thread info >> away from anyone who might misuse it (read:anyone who hanst considered >> ALL possible ways to not use threads) I will. This way >> people look for other solutions to problems, not just start random >> threads and not think of better ways to do things. >> >> I hope this explains my viewpoint >> >> >> >> ---- >> Best Regards, >> Dmitry Grinberg >> (847) 226 9295 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Lionscribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Well you all don't seem to know Dmitry! >>> He is one of the Supreme Hacking master of the Palm OS. There is nothing >>> that he loves more then doing dumps and cracking the 68K & ARM Code. >>> But it seems that he has to make a living too, and therefore he does not >>> seem to want to share the hard work with us lazy C progranmers. >>> If we would all offer him let's say 10K, I am sure he would be open for >>> discussion. >>> So who is starting the PayPal donations collections? :-) >>> Lionscribe >>> >>> -- >>> For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, >>> please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/ >>> >> >> -- >> For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, >> please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/ >> > > > > -- > Eric Bresie > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, > please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/ > -- [Jeff Loucks, Gig Harbor, WA, USA] -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
