Hi Daniel,

Any followups on this issue?

Thanks for the heads-up,

Vincent

On 2/14/19 8:09 AM, Rickard von Essen wrote:
> Since I fail to explain how this works I suggest that you post an
> example Dockerfile here and I'll translate it to a similar Packer
> template.
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 2:57 PM Daniel Ortega
> <danielortegauf...@gmail.com <mailto:danielortegauf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>         I think there is som confusion of what RUN in a Dockerfile does
>
>
>     I don't agree, my problem it's about something that is called
>     "docker builder" in Packer cannot be used to build anything (as I
>     cannot execute any "RUN" command). Maybe it's a semantic question.
>
>         So to produce a image that runs systemd do:
>
>         a) shell provisioner to install systemd and services
>         b) change the ENTRYPOINT/CMD in changes to run systemd.
>
>
>     It's clear to me that using some provisioners you can do a
>     workaround for other cases, but I think that is *not for systemd*.
>     AFAIK, *systemd* should be the first daemon to start and the last
>     daemon to stop. 
>
>     Thanks everyone for your suggestions! :)
>
>     El martes, 12 de febrero de 2019, 20:49:00 (UTC+1), Rickard von
>     Essen escribió:
>
>         I think there is som confusion of what RUN in a Dockerfile
>         does. It executes the command during the build of the image.
>         That would be handled by a shell provisioner in Packer. 
>
>         What process gets started when you /run/ the container from
>         the resulting image is handled by ENTRYPOINT and CMD those can
>         be set in packer with the changes 1).
>
>         So to produce a image that runs systemd do:
>
>         a) shell provisioner to install systemd and services
>         b) change the ENTRYPOINT/CMD in changes to run systemd.
>
>         1) https://packer.io/docs/builders/docker.html#changes
>
>         // Rickard
>
>         PS. Multiprocess containers can (and should) really be questioned.
>
>         On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 6:14 PM Vincent Rubiolo
>         <vincent...@datameer.com> wrote:
>
>             Hi Daniel,
>
>             On 2/12/19 2:29 AM, Daniel Ortega wrote:
>>             We want to use our Java docker image (tagged as
>>             /idealista/8u181-stretch-openjdk-headless
>>             <https://hub.docker.com/r/idealista/jdk/tags>/ in Docker
>>             Hub) which is based in Debian Stretch Slim. 
>>
>>             This image *doesn't have systemd* (neither official
>>             image, nor our derived image one), so this package should
>>             be installed to be used later to configure our services.
>>             AFAIK, if you want to use systemd to manage services,
>>             this process should be the first -> should be present in
>>             Docker run command. But the problem is, before
>>             installation /lib/system/systemd is not present, so the
>>             container cannot start. This could be solved using RUN
>>             when you are using Dockerfiles, because that commands are
>>             executed in the image "build phase". You can install
>>             systemd before and execute /lib/system/systemd at
>>             container startup.
>
>             As Rickard said, you can use a shell provisioner to run
>             any command you want (in this case the one to start
>             systemd) once your container is up with Packer. Another
>             solution is to override the RUN command (as per
>             https://www.packer.io/docs/builders/docker.html#run_command)
>             to specify what you want.
>
>             So in short I'd advise:
>
>              1. Start your container with Packer using the default
>                 settings.
>              2. Install the packages you want (either via a shell or
>                 Ansible provisioner), like systemd.
>              3. In your shell provisioner, manually start systemd,
>                 then use it to configure the services
>
>             AFAIK, systemd must be running when you use commands like
>             'service' but it does not need to be started when the
>             container starts (there are ways to do that if needed).
>
>             On a related note, I had a similar issue with the
>             container not starting, because the default Packer 'docker
>             run' command relies on /bin/bash +  not having an
>             entrypoint set (cf
>             https://github.com/hashicorp/packer/issues/6920). The
>             changes was made but later reverted because of backward
>             compatibility issues. You might find the issue useful in
>             your case tool.
>
>             Let us know how it goes,
>
>             Vincent
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