Hi Med,

I agree with Joe that a dispatch function has taken over a whole different 
definition in IETF, with formal meeting slots and times set for them in each 
meeting. We are not there as yet.

I will process the rest of the edits for the charter and send it forward before 
the weekend.

Thanks.

> On Mar 20, 2025, at 6:30 PM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote:
> 
> Re,
>  
> Thanks Joe for the follow-up.
>  
> The siloed/lack of engagements for some topics is not related to the dispatch 
> nature but that sometimes small groups are only interested in their 
> documents. We may experiment in the future clustering and moving to 
> short-lived WGs. We should not be frightened by that as well :-)
>  
> As an OPS AD, I’d like we provide better visibility on the first entry point 
> to the area, hence an explicit endorsement of the dispatch function.
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Cheers,
> Med
>  
> De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jcla...@cisco.com <mailto:jcla...@cisco.com>> 
> Envoyé : vendredi 21 mars 2025 08:13
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com 
> <mailto:mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>>; Benoit Claise 
> <benoit.claise=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org 
> <mailto:benoit.claise=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>>; opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org 
> <mailto:opsawg@ietf.org>>
> Objet : Re: [OPSAWG]Re: OPSAWG recharrting
>  
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
> (1) I think that we need to have text to formally endorse the dispatch 
> function for the ops area.
> 
> (2) I would simplify this part as the message seems to be redundant:
> 
> "The OPSAWG
> will serve as the forum for developing such work items in the IETF. The 
> OPSAWG mailing list is an open discussion forum for such work
> items when they arise."
>  
> [JMC] I’m okay with this, but we aren’t exactly a dispatch in the sense of 
> some other areas.  Moreover, I think it’s because of this kind of dual role 
> we sometimes struggle to get engagement.  For that reason, while I wouldn’t 
> strongly object, I’d prefer to leave this more implied.
> 
> 
> (3) Please remove OPS from this sentence "...don't otherwise belong to 
> another OPS Working Group" as there are ops-related topics in non-ops area 
> (e.g. transport matters in tsvwg).
>  
> [JMC] Fair point!
> 
> 
> (4) Don't know what is meant by "small-scale extensions". May be we want to 
> say "minor extensions"? 
>  
> [JMC] I like that.
> 
> 
> (5) I would also cite service models, not only "network-level YANG modules" 
>  
> [JMC] I think I also listed service models in my initial comment on this.  
> Good catch.
> 
> 
> (6) please clear the current two milestones 
>  
> [JMC] I thought we did in our edits…
>  
> Joe
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