Re,

Thanks Joe for the follow-up.

The siloed/lack of engagements for some topics is not related to the dispatch 
nature but that sometimes small groups are only interested in their documents. 
We may experiment in the future clustering and moving to short-lived WGs. We 
should not be frightened by that as well :-)

[JMC] I like the idea of short-lived WGs.  I think that will focus the silos.  
But lack of specific charter focus – I feel – has also been an issue.

As an OPS AD, I’d like we provide better visibility on the first entry point to 
the area, hence an explicit endorsement of the dispatch function.

[JMC] You’re the boss !

Joe

Thank you.

Cheers,
Med

De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jcla...@cisco.com>
Envoyé : vendredi 21 mars 2025 08:13
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>; Benoit Claise 
<benoit.claise=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>; opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org>
Objet : Re: [OPSAWG]Re: OPSAWG recharrting





(1) I think that we need to have text to formally endorse the dispatch function 
for the ops area.

(2) I would simplify this part as the message seems to be redundant:

"The OPSAWG
will serve as the forum for developing such work items in the IETF. The OPSAWG 
mailing list is an open discussion forum for such work
items when they arise."

[JMC] I’m okay with this, but we aren’t exactly a dispatch in the sense of some 
other areas.  Moreover, I think it’s because of this kind of dual role we 
sometimes struggle to get engagement.  For that reason, while I wouldn’t 
strongly object, I’d prefer to leave this more implied.


(3) Please remove OPS from this sentence "...don't otherwise belong to another 
OPS Working Group" as there are ops-related topics in non-ops area (e.g. 
transport matters in tsvwg).

[JMC] Fair point!


(4) Don't know what is meant by "small-scale extensions". May be we want to say 
"minor extensions"?

[JMC] I like that.


(5) I would also cite service models, not only "network-level YANG modules"

[JMC] I think I also listed service models in my initial comment on this.  Good 
catch.


(6) please clear the current two milestones

[JMC] I thought we did in our edits…

Joe

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