Thanks Alex, Adrian, and Justin!

I do plan on submitting a revision soon, and I also feel these are sensible and 
stable based on the feedback we have received.

Thanks,

Carlos.

> On Jul 24, 2024, at 4:39 PM, Justin Iurman <justin.iur...@uliege.be> wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> IMHO, keeping "Encapsulating", "Transit" and "Decapsulating" nodes 
> terminology (and related definitions) is the way to go. It's used in RFC 9197 
> (and in all IOAM related documents as well), and I think folks are used to 
> those terms/definitions now. Besides, I don't see any other better terms (nor 
> definitions) to replace them.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> On 7/24/24 10:05, Alex Huang Feng wrote:
>> Dear Adrian,
>> Thanks for the rapid response.
>> IMO, (at least) the definitions of encapsulation, transit and decapsulation 
>> nodes are well defined (and also well understood from the IETF community), 
>> so I am personally not worried about any future changes to these definitions.
>> I only wanted to get the perspective from the authors and I would say your 
>> response is rather encouraging.
>> Cheers,
>> Alex
>>> On 23 Jul 2024, at 14:55, Adrian Farrel <adr...@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well timed email, Alex.
>>> I made a note during today’s meeting to chase Benoit to see whether he is 
>>> happy with the references.
>>> On reflection, getting Benoit happy may be a stretch.
>>> The authors are working on polish. Carlos plans a revision “soon”, and I 
>>> plan to take a pass next week.
>>> My gut feeling is that the terms are stable, but not completely cooked. 
>>> There is a risk of a small percentage churn.
>>> We are, however, aware that it would be good to push this document hard and 
>>> fast to ensure that it can be available for everyone sooner rather than 
>>> later.
>>> Obviously, we would really like references, but we are also aware that 
>>> normative references will (ultimately) cause delays in the RFC Editor Queue.
>>> Let me say that the authors will do their best.
>>> Can I encourage the WG to be proactive and try to get reviews done now so 
>>> that when we get to WGLC the document is already practically perfect.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Adrian
>>> *From:*Alex Huang Feng <alex.huang-f...@insa-lyon.fr 
>>> <mailto:alex.huang-f...@insa-lyon.fr>>
>>> *Sent:*23 July 2024 22:38
>>> *To:*draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-characterization.auth...@ietf.org 
>>> <mailto:draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-characterization.auth...@ietf.org>
>>> *Cc:*opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org <mailto:opsawg@ietf.org>>; Benoit Claise 
>>> <benoit.cla...@huawei.com <mailto:benoit.cla...@huawei.com>>; Thomas. Graf 
>>> <thomas.g...@swisscom.com <mailto:thomas.g...@swisscom.com>>
>>> *Subject:*Reference to oam-characterization draft
>>> Dear authors,
>>> Thanks a lot for writing and pushing this draft. It is very useful.
>>> I only want to raise that our draft is now having a normative reference to 
>>> draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-characterization.
>>> We are using the terms “encapsulation", “transit" and “decapsulation" node 
>>> in 
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry/ 
>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry/>
>>>  (See section 2 Terminology)
>>> I would like to get the opinion from the authors on whether the definition 
>>> of these terms is stable enough to be used already on other documents.
>>> The reason I am asking is because draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry 
>>> is currently very close to get a WGLC and we were wondering if using the 
>>> terms from oam-characterization is the way to go.
>>> Regards,
>>> Alex, on behalf of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry authors
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