I agree. According to the definitions, most of the projects should be in Integration Review by now. If we keep the Graduation Review and Termination Review, we could drop Integration Review.

-Tapio


On 03/07/2017 08:39 AM, Ashiq Khan wrote:

+1

Ashiq

*From:*opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] *On Behalf Of *SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
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*To:* Raymond Paik; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org; opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org *Subject:* Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Continuing the project graduation discussions

I added my comments to that page:

I think we need to revisit the https://www.opnfv.org/software/technical-project-governance/project-lifecycle expectations 2.5 years into OPNFV. IMO, in a rapidly evolving industry, projects will come and go, morph and merge, both in OPNFV and upstream. In fact, if we walk the "working upstream" talk, projects in OPNFV really should be quite short-lived (a couple of releases) before they are upstreamed fully, leaving behind only perhaps some deployment/test scripts as needed for the OPNFV CI/CD system, and some documents which describe what the project was about and where further development of it lives. Exceptions to this expectation for "succeed and disappear" may be the truly integration-focused projects (e.g. OpenStack distro-centered installers) and test projects that span upstream projects.

Thanks,

Bryan Sullivan | AT&T

*From:*opnfv-tsc-boun...@lists.opnfv.org <mailto:opnfv-tsc-boun...@lists.opnfv.org> [mailto:opnfv-tsc-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] *On Behalf Of *Raymond Paik
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*Subject:* Re: [opnfv-tsc] Continuing the project graduation discussions

All,

Wanted to follow-up via email in order to save sometime during the TSC call tomorrow (https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/TSC#TSC-March6,2017).. <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opnfv.org_display_meetings_TSC-23TSC-2DMarch6-2C2017-29..&d=DQMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OrbtGCluczz9awEKz9Fv7g&m=VqAXZ6YWr807EgwrEiOhHc_AplZZGIxhwRO-RjsQHoY&s=FgQCusblpotAwdbFpL81oCyCfTQRh8w9LnrRuVMXiOY&e=>..

Besides a single comment on the wiki page (https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Graduation+review+discussions <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opnfv.org_display_PROJ_Graduation-2Breview-2Bdiscussions&d=DQMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OrbtGCluczz9awEKz9Fv7g&m=VqAXZ6YWr807EgwrEiOhHc_AplZZGIxhwRO-RjsQHoY&s=H8JHb1qDDrm32a5EmJblzKGzGVzOAknKACmLACPmegk&e=>), I don't believe there were other feedback so here's my recommendation.

Based on past discussions, I believe there's consensus that graduation reviews are good ways of recognizing mature projects that can server as role models for the rest of the community. In addition, I don't think there's any need to make any modifications to the graduation review process in the current OPNFV Project Lifecycle (https://www.opnfv.org/software/technical-project-governance/project-lifecycle <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.opnfv.org_software_technical-2Dproject-2Dgovernance_project-2Dlifecycle&d=DQMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OrbtGCluczz9awEKz9Fv7g&m=VqAXZ6YWr807EgwrEiOhHc_AplZZGIxhwRO-RjsQHoY&s=WFUsFzmv1ez4gUxcHXSuxYc5MzFuV6X6jQHUoP6oFcQ&e=>). There was a discussion on whether a project team can step forward for a graduation review or if there should be a nomination from the community, but I think either way will work.

Let me know if you have any other questions/comments. If not, we could probably reach a quick consensus on the call tomorrow.

Thanks,

Ray

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Raymond Paik <rp...@linuxfoundation.org <mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:

    All,

    I don't think I managed to follow-up after our discussions at the
    Plugfest on graduation reviews.  I created a wiki page summarizing
    my notes at
    https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Graduation+review+discussions
    
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.opnfv.org_display_PROJ_Graduation-2Breview-2Bdiscussions&d=DQMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OrbtGCluczz9awEKz9Fv7g&m=VqAXZ6YWr807EgwrEiOhHc_AplZZGIxhwRO-RjsQHoY&s=H8JHb1qDDrm32a5EmJblzKGzGVzOAknKACmLACPmegk&e=>
     If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to add
    them to the comments section on the wiki page or reply to this email.

    I also had a chance to talk to a few OpenDaylight community
    members last week and confirmed that projects that passed
    graduation/promotion reviews in their community serve as "role
    models" for other members of the community.

    I can bring this up during the TSC call tomorrow if we have time...

    Thanks,


    Ray



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