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Idiots


> On Oct 11, 2023, at 7:56 PM, Greg Oliver <oliver.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 5:21 PM Sebastian Moeller <moell...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 21:05, Mark Thurston <m...@mdvthu.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---- On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 18:04:41 +0100  Dave Taht  wrote ---
>>>> Anyone got a ps4 or ps5 and can take a packet capture at their router?
>>>> Dying to know if it is cubic or bbr in particular
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sorry if this is a silly comment but will all traffic not be encrypted?
>> 
>>        [SM] Yes, likely it will be.
>> 
>>> Unless you've changed the certs on the PS, surely it won't be easy to do 
>>> MITM packet analysis of the content, only analysis of the approximate size?
> 
> He just wants the TCP headers/flows to see what algorithm they are
> using for congestion.  Encryption of the payload is irrelevant here.
> 
>>        [SM] I guess the first question really is, is the data rate going to 
>> be constant or variable and what rate will be measurable on average... and 
>> will the quality be noticeably better. After all few users will pick an 80 
>> Mbps service unless that is noticeably better than a 25 mbps service... I 
>> can hardly notice the difference between 1K and 4K resolution (on a 43inch 
>> display at 2-3 meter distance) so I would likely not notice or care, but I 
>> am not the core audience anyway ;)
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>>        Sebatian
>> 
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