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--- Begin Message ---Q: are all the platforms where this problem has been observed multi-core (like the RPi4 or mt7621) or has this ever been experienced on a single core system? Was the Qemu test Petr S. has done been running a multi-core or single core emulation? Petr > On 2 Jan 2020, at 18:36, Stijn Segers <f...@volatilesystems.org> wrote: > > Hannu Nyman <hannu.ny...@iki.fi> schreef op 2 januari 2020 16:48:08 CET: >> Petr Štetiar kirjoitti 1.1.2020 klo 22.46: >>> Petr Novák <pe...@me.com> [2020-01-01 21:11:30]: >>> >>>> But how come the workaround was to use an older libubox and ubus - >> was there >>>> any new check which was not there before? >>> I don't have definitive answer, as I would need RPi-4 (or any other >> real >>> hardware with Cortex-A72 core) to find the actual bit in the libubox >> which >>> caused this change in the behavior, but here is a part of the commit >>> description[1] which might help answering that: >>> >>> It seems like the recent fixes in the libubox library, particulary >> in >>> the jshn sub-component (which empowers json_dump used in the shell >>> script executed by the child process) made the execution somehow >> faster, >>> thus exposing this racy behaviour in the >> validate_firmware_image_call at >>> least on RPi-4 (Cortex-A72) target. >>> >>> As I was unable to trigger this issue even in the QEMU/Cortex-A72 I >> assume, >>> that it was simply some kind of race, needed specific timing, >> provided >>> preciously only by that RPi-4 hardware. >> >> >> I think that there may have been an older race condition behaviour that >> has >> now just surfaced better with RPi4 after the recent changes. It has >> earlier >> manifested itself sometimes with some routers, but more rarely. >> >> I have seen an occasional failure of sysupgrade in one of my routers >> since >> October (ar71xx or ath79 / WNDR3700v2). > > I've seen the same multiple times on more than one mt7621 device and I opened > FS#2696 on this. > > Granted, not the most verbose bug report. > > Stijn > > > > >> I wrote about that to the >> mailing >> list in November, although then I thought that it might be just a >> "force" >> option failure: >> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2019-November/019996.html >> >> Others have seen that also, based on forum discussion: >> https://forum.openwrt.org/t/build-for-wndr3700v1-v2-wndr3800/64/295 >> >> Petr Novak describes similar thing as my error as: "it does just reboot >> but >> does not flash anything." >> >> I have tried to debug that in my WNDR3800 that has serial console >> connection, >> but have not managed to produce the error in that 3800. With 3800 the >> sysupgrade has succeeded always. However, in my 3700v2 (that has >> identical >> hardware except the RAM size) on the other side of the building, I >> still >> occasionally see the behaviour of LuCI based sysupgrade starting ok, >> but the >> router booting back to the same firmware after an invisible error. >> After that >> reboot the next sysupgrade attempt via LuCI usually works quite ok. >> (sounds >> like a sysupgrade from a recently booted system usually works, but >> sysupgrading a system after some runtime does sometimes not work.) >> >> I first thought that it was related to using force in the ar71xx/ath79 >> jump, >> but it has been present in normal sysupgrades. >> >> Possibly a manifestation of the same race condition in >> sysupgrade/procd/libubox, so hopefully your patches will fix also that. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openwrt-devel mailing list >> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >
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