> Trust me.  Take it from somebody who has been working full-time for
> years on an 10 year old open source project (so the processes are
> mature).  Workflow in a tracking system can work, but you have to
> commit to it.  No half-way efforts.  (For patch review and tracking)
> Either use e-mail 100% of the time or tracking 100% of the time.  Not
> both.

The first mail (from john) was about this choice : my vote as user and
occasional submitter goes for tracking 100% of the time.

> 
> > feel the need to discuss your patch, we suggest you start a
> > new thread for that on the madwifi-devel mailing list and refer to
> > the ticket that has the patch attached. Don't forget to explain
> > what your patch is intended to do. 
> > "
> 
> > *And* to give devs/maintainers an easy way to keep track and review
> > patches.
> 
> Of course.  I would suggest having them have to use a tracking system
> *and* e-mail for this process is overly cumbersome too.  Rather than
> simply starting to make comments on a patch posted, now they have to
> go back to the patch owner and say "ok, now I need you to post that
> same patch to the ML so that I can open it back up, try to remember
> what I wanted to critique and start writing my response".

I agree this case is really cumbersome.

> 
> > I don't know any tracking system (except review-board) offering
> > what the devs want: inline review of patches.
> 
> Bugzilla does it just fine.  Patch owner attaches a patch to a ticket,
> then the reviewer then "opens the attachment in a comment" (that's a
> bugzilla feature) and goes about commenting, inline, on what he likes
> or doesn't like, the result being a new comment in the bug.

Oups, I never paid attention to it... :/

> 
> > So there is no right tool to
> > satisfy them.
> 
> I disagree.

You are right.


> Perhaps.  I know BZ lets you do it.  I don't know about Trac.  But it
> seems that Trac already fails the "review inline" requirement anyway,
> so why bothering arguing about what else it doesn't do.
> 
> > I don't think it's worth the migration and configuration cost.
> 
> To get inline review, where the only alternative is this mish-mash of
> a tracking system and e-mail that means more work for both posters and
> reviewers?  I guess that's a call for the owners of the project.
> Whether they feel the migration effort is worth attracting and keeping
> contributors or not.  Certainly not my call.

Perhaps they read the list and they will agree with John for improving
Trac configuration (or decide a bigger move), or state things stay the
same : bugs in tracker, patches in mailing-list.


Regards,

fred
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