Its funny you all speak about division, being i cant completely functionally use any of them that exists, being x-wrt, gargoyle, or luci so to each there own, there is CoovaAP also which is a diversion
gargoyle doesnt even configure WDS from where i can see, looking at Luci next, x-wrt leaves a bit to be desired quite honestly, i believe there is room in this space for other, better more complete GUIs, not to compare anything openwrt to dd-wrt, the only good thing dd-wrt has is the GUI, the rest well we have found problematic and unstable, also its encrypted. not sure why he decided to shoot himself that way but hey, whole other topic. now if all of you were to come together, and join forces and take the best features from each of what exists, you might get my attention, the one gui that does what i require is Coova, though its not complete either. overall you all lack some functionality in both design and features capabilities. so stop whining or compalining and GET to work before someone else wrties another, by the way Luci... well its fast kudos to you guys for that, though i cant read german :) On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 09:57 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 17:04 -0400, Eric Bishop wrote: > > It is ironic that the LuCI team decided to make an announcement > > regarding their project today. I have also been working on a new > > (open source) web interface for Kamikaze called Gargoyle, and am now > > releasing the first beta version, which can be found at > > gargoyle-router.com. > > Another. ~sigh~ > > I'm all for choice, but too much choice possibly means an unnecessary > division of labour and unfortunately all Open Source projects suffer > from a shortage of labour. > > I wonder how much better and more complete one (or two perhaps) web UIs > for OpenWRT would be if the resources were pooled into a common project > that kept all of the stakeholders happy. > > > Right up front I want to emphasize that Gargoyle is, like both LuCI > > and X-Wrt a front-end for OpenWrt and NOT a fork. > > Right. All trying to achieve the same thing. Hence my division of > labour comment. > > > Currently it is designed to run on top of Kamikaze 7.09 and not the > > trunk, but as soon as another stable version is released it will be > > engineered to run on top of that. > > So you will only remain compatible with released versions? How much lag > do you expect after a release becomes stable before you will have your > UI working on it? > > > However, several features included in the current trunk have been > > incorporated (e.g. the new UCI) and are installed as packages on top > > of the default Kamikaze release. I have chosen to incorporate the > > features this way so that the interface could be built around a stable > > version vs. the ever-changing trunk. > > Right, but unless you track trunk, you will always have a lag between > waiting for a stable release and porting your work to it. > > > Gargoyle takes a very different philosophical approach to interface > > design than X-Wrt or what I've seen of the new LuCI. Both X-Wrt and > > LuCI seem to be designed with the goal of providing the absolute > > maximum functionality possible. > > Which is a good thing. With the hackabilty of OpenWRT, people are doing > all kinds of neat things to it, a lot which less-power-users might like, > if there were UI to configure it. > > > However, this often comes at the expense of making the interface more > > difficult to use, and can turn off novice users. > > Indeed, there should be a simplified interface for the simple use-cases, > but also a more advanced interface for power users. But there is > nothing wrong with those both being available in the same UI. They are > not mutually exclusive. > > Just my $0.02. > > b. > > _______________________________________________ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > http://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel _______________________________________________ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org http://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
