Hi, I'm responding to Gert and David here as well...
Il sab ott 17 09:59:15 2015 GMT+0300, Heiko Hund scrive: > Hi Samuli > > On Friday 16 October 2015 19:00:13 Samuli Seppänen wrote: > > - The service wrapper (openvpnserv.exe) is effectively broken for > > Windows 8 and later > > - The service wrapper has very limited functionality > > - The OpenVPN-GUI we bundle has several major issues, most related to > > having to run it as an admin > > The interactive service that I posted a year ago solves all these problems. > > > I'm thinking it might make sense to create a dedicated Windows team that > > could share the burden of Windows issues amongst themselves, without any > > one person gettings tagged the "Windows guy". > > Judging from the review the Windows patches received I think this might be an > too ambitious goal. Obviously not many care besides the regulars who make a Ambitious maybe. Are you saying that we should be content with the current situation and drop all ambitious plans :)? Anyways, not many seemed to care about about easy-rsa before it became a separate project in GitHub. Now we have easy-rsa 3 by pekster and ecrist. Similarly for openvpn-build we have/had Alon, pekster, me and syzzer. I'm sure more examples could be found from other projects. I'm also not speaking primarily of Windows patches, but also all the other stuff such as debugging, user support, ticket review, packaging, etc. I believe joining a Windows team (or whatever subteam for that matter) lowers the barrier of entry significantly compared to joining the ”core” team, which is full of hardcore developers (who probably seem intimidating to many people that could still tackle many of the above tasks). So my rationale here boils down to providing a separate playground for potential (new) contributors. Some part of the openvpn project they could call their "own" and take primary responsibility off. And commucation channels where they could organize work which the "core" team is not (provably) not very interested in. Once they get that far they should have few issues joining the "core" team also. > one time exception every now and then and get their hands dirty on Windows > code if they feel it matters. > > > am working on a replacement for openvpnserv.exe. > > Please consider reviewing and improving the interactive service patch instead > of duplicating work. Are you saying that the interactive service also doubles as a Windows system service? If so, can it be configured to autostart selected openvpn connections on boot and restart them if they crash/stop? > > > The Windows team could have a separate board on OpenVPN forums and maybe > > even a separate IRC channel. This is fairly typical arrangement in Linux > > distributions, which have topic- and language-specific groups. We could > > then point people with Windows issues/patches/development questions etc. > > to the Windows team. > > I think that's rather counter productive. Dev work on different systems has > too much common ground to completely separate the ppl by OS. > For dev work yes. I'm not speaking of dev work, but additional communication channels for certain types of discussion. If we get more Windows developers into the Windows team, I'm sure they will be fine with our existing development processes. Now, can anyone provide proof that having a Windows team would actually _hurt_ the project? If not, what does it matter if it fails? We could just scrap the idea retroactively. Samuli > Heiko > > > Sophos Technology GmbH, Amalienbadstraẞe 41/Bau 52, D-76227 Karlsruhe, > Deutschland > Tel +49 (0)721 25516 0 Fax +49 (0)721 25516 200 E-Mail i...@sophos.de > www.sophos.de > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Karlsruhe, Amtsgericht Mannheim HRB 712658 > Geschäftsführer: Nicholas Bray, Pino von Kienlin, Wolfgang Hilpert, Jennifer > Onslow. > Sophos GmbH, Gustav-Stresemann-Ring 1, 65189 Wiesbaden, Deutschland > Tel +49 (0) 611 5858-0 Fax +49 (0) 611 5858-1042 E-Mail i...@sophos.de > www.sophos.de > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Wiesbaden, Amtsgericht Wiesbaden HRB 25915 > Geschäftsführer: Nicholas Bray, Wolfgang Hilpert, Pino von Kienlin, Jennifer > Onslow >
