Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're getting at. I can create both public and private networks within OS9.2 using just VLANs. I can also create networks on VLANs that are outside of the tenant VLAN range I specified in Fuel prior to deployment under the Neutron L2 section.

On 04/13/2017 12:43 PM, Konstantin Raskoshnyi wrote:
It has VLAN segmentation, but.

Mirantis OS92 using vlans for tenants private network, then it connects
to flat public network through neutron. If all controllers are down, all
vms are offline.

I've seen in openstack 11 you can choose type of network from horizon
like (flat, vlan etc). So you can specify any vlan to attach to VMs

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:26 AM, sil...@gmail.com
<mailto:sil...@gmail.com> <sil...@gmail.com <mailto:sil...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

    I'm running Mirantis OS 9.2 and using VLANs so you should be able to
    as well without using OS11.  It should provide you the option to use
    VLAN segmentation for networking while running the cloud environment
    creation wizard.  Once you create the cloud environment, you can't
    change this option, you must re-create the cloud to do so(as far as
    I'm aware of).

    On 04/13/2017 12:19 PM, Konstantin Raskoshnyi wrote:

        Yes, you must be right.
        I'm using the old Mirantis OS 9.2, there's no suck options like
        Vlan. Only flat network.
        I'll take a look on OS11

        Thanks

        On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:24 AM, sil...@gmail.com
        <mailto:sil...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:sil...@gmail.com <mailto:sil...@gmail.com>>
        <sil...@gmail.com <mailto:sil...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:sil...@gmail.com <mailto:sil...@gmail.com>>>
        wrote:

            This is only if you're using the controllers to serve as a
        gateway
            to the Internet or to direct incoming traffic to the VMs.

            If you use a VLAN only network configuration to offload the
        gateway
            to an external device (router or l3 switch) or you use
        Neutron in
            DVR mode, this shouldn't be an issue.

            On 04/13/2017 10:49 AM, Konstantin Raskoshnyi wrote:

                If all controllers are down - nova is down and vms won't
        be able to
                access network

                On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:33 AM Adam Lawson
        <alaw...@aqorn.com <mailto:alaw...@aqorn.com>
                <mailto:alaw...@aqorn.com <mailto:alaw...@aqorn.com>>
                <mailto:alaw...@aqorn.com <mailto:alaw...@aqorn.com>
        <mailto:alaw...@aqorn.com <mailto:alaw...@aqorn.com>>>> wrote:

                    Another FYI, OpenStack services don't have to be
        running to
                access a
                    virtual machine. Period. Amy other condition that
        prevents
                this is a
                    serious design flaw.

                    //adam

                    On Apr 13, 2017 5:31 AM, wrote:

                        Fyi, the idea of controllers are a bit of a
        misnomer.
                You should
                        have redundant services; they don't necessarily
        need to
                be on
                        the same box. Since your asking as a new user.
        Have fun!

                        //adam

                        On Apr 12, 2017 5:27 PM, "Konstantin Raskoshnyi"
                        <konra...@gmail.com <mailto:konra...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:konra...@gmail.com <mailto:konra...@gmail.com>>
                <mailto:konra...@gmail.com <mailto:konra...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:konra...@gmail.com <mailto:konra...@gmail.com>>>> wrote:

                            Yes, machines are still running, but since
        neutron
                is down
                            none of them can be accessible.

                            On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:10 PM ron ramos
                <nha...@gmail.com <mailto:nha...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:nha...@gmail.com <mailto:nha...@gmail.com>>
                            <mailto:nha...@gmail.com
        <mailto:nha...@gmail.com> <mailto:nha...@gmail.com
        <mailto:nha...@gmail.com>>>>
                wrote:

                                hi,

                                depends on what you mean by
        inaccessible, your VM is
                                probably still up and running on the compute
                node. but
                                you won't be able to access them
        remotely as your
                                controller node ( which is hosting
        neutron ) is
                down.

                                regards,
                                nhadie


                                On Apr 12, 2017 11:31, "Konstantin
        Raskoshnyi"
                                <konra...@gmail.com
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        <mailto:konra...@gmail.com>>
                <mailto:konra...@gmail.com <mailto:konra...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:konra...@gmail.com <mailto:konra...@gmail.com>>>> wrote:

                                    Hi guys,
                                    I'm new to openstack.
                                    Installed mirantis os 9,
                                    If one of controllers goes down - vm
                machines are
                                    not accesible, I though openstack
        supposed
                to work
                                    even if one controller is alive

                                    Any thoughts?


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